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Post by bigfella72 on Oct 28, 2017 20:02:14 GMT
Could this bampot not be banned, never a U's fan! Longstanding us fan. Like winning football matches. When we dont im sad. Think you’re sad all the time tbh
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Oct 28, 2017 20:15:08 GMT
Just got back. Pretty depressing day. Had plenty of the ball first half and they did nothing, but after the break it was pretty shambolic. Think we had one shot in the second half and about three shots in the entire match, with one on target. It was pretty damn similar to the match up there last season, to be honest. Really poor.
Both goals were terrible, especially the first, and hardly anyone came out with any credit. Tiendalli should never play for us again.
Really solid chips before kick off, though. That was a serious highlight.
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Post by 1OUFC on Oct 28, 2017 20:34:12 GMT
Just got back. Pretty depressing day. Had plenty of the ball first half and they did nothing, but after the break it was pretty shambolic. Think we had one shot in the second half and about three shots in the entire match, with one on target. It was pretty damn similar to the match up there last season, to be honest. Really poor. Both goals were terrible, especially the first, and hardly anyone came out with any credit. Tiendalli should never play for us again. Really solid chips before kick off, though. That was a serious highlight. Interesting comment about Tiendalli. I thought he took himself away from the game a lot, others thought he got himself into good positions out wide but was rarely given the ball.
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Post by malcolmsmoustache on Oct 28, 2017 20:36:28 GMT
Also just back.B long drive for that. Very frustrating. Obviously a talented bunch of players, and we bossed the first 60 minutes. In the first half, we looked streets ahead of Fleetwood, who are not a bad team at all. But created very little, and ridiculous lack of concentration for the first goal. Agree re: Tiandelli. Accident waiting to happen. He's also seriously overweight. Mowatt also very underwhelming. Technically decent, but little pace and too many sideways passes. Rothwell injected far more urgency when he came on. Still think we'll be top 8-10, but we have to get a bit nastier and more clinical.
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Post by Hayfield Yellow on Oct 28, 2017 21:06:11 GMT
Tiendalli should never play for us again. Interesting. I thought Tiendalli was pretty good in the first half. Given the way we were playing (tap it around between the back three looking to pull open a channel) he was the one that offered the forward outlet. One backheel flick had me purring. Fine margins today. It doesn't look much in the highlights but that save from Wes Thomas in the first half is a blinder. That goes in (pretty much the only chance for either team in the first half), it's a different game. Horrible conditions to play football in for both sides.
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Post by jambon46 on Oct 28, 2017 21:06:42 GMT
Not a good performance today, Tiendalli wasn't brilliant going forward, but didn't lose the game for us, I think that was more of a collective. Home by 8.30 for curry and beer!
Also what was with numpty Kettle cupping his ear when we sang 'you don't know what your doing' - that said I don't think he had bad game
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Post by dubaiyellow on Oct 29, 2017 3:36:52 GMT
"I couldn't believe they kept backing off me" (for the first goal) Groundhog day or what!
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Post by dubaiyellow on Oct 29, 2017 3:42:58 GMT
Some might say biased but if we're judging the game on the last 45mins he is pretty much spot on.
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Post by davox on Oct 29, 2017 8:42:33 GMT
"I couldn't believe they kept backing off me" (for the first goal) Groundhog day or what! Why on earth were we backing off? It’s like this team can’t learn their lessons. I think that we have a lot of ability and heart in our team but very little football intelligence at key moments (both in attack and defence). Pep can go on about project building all day lomg but if you have players that cant learn lessons then this project will go nowhere. This has been a few games coming. Charlton should have punished us the other week for backing off and didnt. We let the opposition have far too many shots on goal and way too many balls are getting into our box. Eastwood is understandably fuming and this result needs to serve as a wake up call. Conceding a goal like that in 88th minute is a joke. Much work needed.
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Post by dubaiyellow on Oct 29, 2017 9:13:29 GMT
"I couldn't believe they kept backing off me" (for the first goal) Groundhog day or what! Why on earth were we backing off? It’s like this team can’t learn their lessons. I think that we have a lot of ability and heart in our team but very little football intelligence at key moments (both in attack and defence). Pep can go on about project building all day lomg but if you have players that cant learn lessons then this project will go nowhere. This has been a few games coming. Charlton should have punished us the other week for backing off and didnt. We let the opposition have far too many shots on goal and way too many balls are getting into our box. Eastwood is understandably fuming and this result needs to serve as a wake up call. Conceding a goal like that in 88th minute is a joke. Much work needed. Honestly i dont know. I can understand in a 1 on 1 situation the defender not wanting to commit and hold him out there until help comes along. But on more than one occasion yesterday we had at least 2 players facing an attacking Fleetwood player and not one player decided to put a foot in, we just held off and allowed the shot or cross to come in far too easily. I feel a bit sorry for Eastwood, hes done very little wrong this season but has been let down by his defence a few times.
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Post by uptheus on Oct 29, 2017 9:38:04 GMT
Why on earth were we backing off? It’s like this team can’t learn their lessons. I think that we have a lot of ability and heart in our team but very little football intelligence at key moments (both in attack and defence). Pep can go on about project building all day lomg but if you have players that cant learn lessons then this project will go nowhere. This has been a few games coming. Charlton should have punished us the other week for backing off and didnt. We let the opposition have far too many shots on goal and way too many balls are getting into our box. Eastwood is understandably fuming and this result needs to serve as a wake up call. Conceding a goal like that in 88th minute is a joke. Much work needed. Honestly i dont know. I can understand in a 1 on 1 situation the defender not wanting to commit and hold him out there until help comes along. But on more than one occasion yesterday we had at least 2 players facing an attacking Fleetwood player and not one player decided to put a foot in, we just held off and allowed the shot or cross to come in far too easily. I feel a bit sorry for Eastwood, hes done very little wrong this season but has been let down by his defence a few times. Don't worry, Ribiero has now said on a couple of occasions that we've learnt this and that and hopefully it won't happen again, so that should make it alright.
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Post by diagocostapacket on Oct 29, 2017 9:39:32 GMT
Did I take a wrong turn somewhere off the A585 and end up in Carlisle...?? I thought DT had a fine game LB.. made several excellent tackles and marshalled his opposite well. Defensively he was excellent and for a first proper start put in a fine shift.
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Post by diagocostapacket on Oct 29, 2017 9:43:52 GMT
Honestly i dont know. I can understand in a 1 on 1 situation the defender not wanting to commit and hold him out there until help comes along. But on more than one occasion yesterday we had at least 2 players facing an attacking Fleetwood player and not one player decided to put a foot in, we just held off and allowed the shot or cross to come in far too easily. I feel a bit sorry for Eastwood, hes done very little wrong this season but has been let down by his defence a few times. Don't worry, Ribiero has now said on a couple of occasions that we've learnt this and that and hopefully it won't happen again, so that should make it alright. Nothing to do with the players...obviously that's the way Pep wants them to play.. you cant pass the ball when your on your backside.
Ribs had a good game yesterday I thought.
Forget the second goal ...we were chasing a point...shit happens.
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Post by eighteen93 on Oct 29, 2017 9:47:55 GMT
... but how can we have contributors who emphatically state that Dwight should not play the U’s again and others confidently putting the case for him doing well after a long period out, playing in an unaccustomed position against a decent side who do well at home. One even purring at some of his quality.
For me, I only saw him for 25 minutes at MK in early September when I thought he oozed class with his ability on the ball, his passing from right back was good as was his positional sense.
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Post by yellowsarmy on Oct 29, 2017 9:56:52 GMT
This is my major issue with what is a good team. We don't learn. We do a 16 pass sideways bit of play without threatening. Then we do it again its like watching crab football at times. Then suddenly we do a couple of good forward passes and get a goal. Sometimes like after halftime in Wimbledon at home we remember passing and looking to move forward and do it again and we are very good when we do that. Other times we forget and go back to type of passing it crab style. Most frustrating is players like lego offer themselves for the ball facing their own goal. When I was being coached by propper trained coaches they drummed in the importance of head up looking around facing forwards to see where the next pass should go not shout at the player with the ball then once received it have to turn the correct way then look up before passing. What I see are lots of people wanting the ball (which is good) but nobody really knowing what they are going to do with the ball once they get it so do the safe thing and pass backwards or sideways.
Also our defence is really soft those two goals the first is just awful the lack of closing down. I mean that is just someone not doing their job it's like me browsing Facebook from 3:30 I may well be in the office but I ain't working.
And dont worry about the second goal so long as our defenders can play a decent sideways ball and be better on the ball it doesn't matter about that gift where moush not for the first time this season just gotten done with what wasn't even a particularly decent bit of skill. Sorry really not seeing much decent defending this season on the left side of central defence. Moush is certainly a better player of the ball compared to the options last season but defensively we are massively back on where we were last season.
So in summary this team has the potential ) especially if we can get a decent left sided central defender (who is organized and can defend). But we need to cut out the basic silly mistakes and learn.
Come on you yellows!
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Post by bigfella72 on Oct 29, 2017 9:56:57 GMT
... but how can we have contributors who emphatically state that Dwight should not play the U’s again and others confidently putting the case for him doing well after a long period out, playing in an unaccustomed position against a decent side who do well at home. One even purring at some of his quality. For me, I only saw him for 25 minutes at MK in early September when I thought he oozed class with his ability on the ball, his passing from right back was good as was his positional sense. Wasn’t there or at MK but it’s obvious Tiendelli has some class about him but I’m sure he wasn’t match fit so to play a full game like that was madness imo.
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Post by maggiesdad on Oct 29, 2017 10:20:09 GMT
... but how can we have contributors who emphatically state that Dwight should not play the U’s again and others confidently putting the case for him doing well after a long period out, playing in an unaccustomed position against a decent side who do well at home. One even purring at some of his quality. For me, I only saw him for 25 minutes at MK in early September when I thought he oozed class with his ability on the ball, his passing from right back was good as was his positional sense. because he was good/very good in the first half/60 minutes but pants (understandably) once he tired
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Post by dubaiyellow on Oct 29, 2017 11:04:48 GMT
... but how can we have contributors who emphatically state that Dwight should not play the U’s again and others confidently putting the case for him doing well after a long period out, playing in an unaccustomed position against a decent side who do well at home. One even purring at some of his quality. For me, I only saw him for 25 minutes at MK in early September when I thought he oozed class with his ability on the ball, his passing from right back was good as was his positional sense. because he was good/very good in the first half/60 minutes but pants (understandably) once he tired Agree with ^^^ i thought he looked decent until last 3rd of the game.
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Post by oufcad27 on Oct 29, 2017 11:31:02 GMT
Just watched the official lowlights, why did no one close down for their first?! Basic defending!
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Post by uptheus on Oct 29, 2017 11:40:30 GMT
Don't worry, Ribiero has now said on a couple of occasions that we've learnt this and that and hopefully it won't happen again, so that should make it alright. Nothing to do with the players...obviously that's the way Pep wants them to play.. you cant pass the ball when your on your backside.
Ribs had a good game yesterday I thought.
Forget the second goal ...we were chasing a point...shit happens.
I'm talking about Ribiero having now said on a couple of occasions that players are learning from their mistakes, but it appears they aren't. Saying it and doing it are two different things, but it appears to be more of the saying than doing. Wasn't a comment about his play or who's error it was. I'd rather the players just said that we're really annoyed and disappointed to give away sloppy goals like that, and then showed in the next game that they'd learnt from it rather than just saying it. It just feels with Pep and the player interviews that it's all just a matter of fact e.g. nicey, nicey when sometimes you you want to hear and see passion, anger, frustrations etc, but all in moderation of course e.g. we don't get too excited when we win and don't get too downbeat when we lose. I'd actually say we should be upbeat when we win, and annoyed when we lose, I mean it's all about winning, isn't it?
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Post by maggiesdad on Oct 29, 2017 11:44:11 GMT
because he was good/very good in the first half/60 minutes but pants (understandably) once he tired Agree with ^^^ i thought he looked decent until last 3rd of the game. and this is why I said in a different thread that I thought that Pep should have spotted it and made a change. He was not going to get less tired as it went on and this was only going to be made more obvious when they introduced fresh legs up front. Even if it meant pushing Josh back to full back.
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Post by diagocostapacket on Oct 29, 2017 17:25:40 GMT
Nothing to do with the players...obviously that's the way Pep wants them to play.. you cant pass the ball when your on your backside.
Ribs had a good game yesterday I thought.
Forget the second goal ...we were chasing a point...shit happens.
I'm talking about Ribiero having now said on a couple of occasions that players are learning from their mistakes, but it appears they aren't. Saying it and doing it are two different things, but it appears to be more of the saying than doing. Wasn't a comment about his play or who's error it was. I'd rather the players just said that we're really annoyed and disappointed to give away sloppy goals like that, and then showed in the next game that they'd learnt from it rather than just saying it. It just feels with Pep and the player interviews that it's all just a matter of fact e.g. nicey, nicey when sometimes you you want to hear and see passion, anger, frustrations etc, but all in moderation of course e.g. we don't get too excited when we win and don't get too downbeat when we lose. I'd actually say we should be upbeat when we win, and annoyed when we lose, I mean it's all about winning, isn't it? No its not
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Post by charliesghost on Oct 29, 2017 22:26:55 GMT
Nothing to do with the players...obviously that's the way Pep wants them to play.. you cant pass the ball when your on your backside.
Ribs had a good game yesterday I thought.
Forget the second goal ...we were chasing a point...shit happens.
I'm talking about Ribiero having now said on a couple of occasions that players are learning from their mistakes, but it appears they aren't. Saying it and doing it are two different things, but it appears to be more of the saying than doing. Wasn't a comment about his play or who's error it was. I'd rather the players just said that we're really annoyed and disappointed to give away sloppy goals like that, and then showed in the next game that they'd learnt from it rather than just saying it. It just feels with Pep and the player interviews that it's all just a matter of fact e.g. nicey, nicey when sometimes you you want to hear and see passion, anger, frustrations etc, but all in moderation of course e.g. we don't get too excited when we win and don't get too downbeat when we lose. I'd actually say we should be upbeat when we win, and annoyed when we lose, I mean it's all about winning, isn't it? This was my concern earlier in the season, but I hear on good authority that there is a difference between media Pep and training ground Pep. By all accounts quite a character and not the mild-mannered man we get to listen to on RadOx. I think that the team has learned in many ways. They don't seem as easy to hustle out of it, are mostly getting less fancy Dan at the back and I think the 3 forwards behind the striker are learning a pattern of play that can get us in behind despite lack of pace in the side. Wes Thomas has been better than I expected, but we are still a quality frontman short of making this system work. Our variety of full backs does not seem to include a single one who can get out and press an opposition wide man. I shudder to think how many goals we have conceded from wide positions.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Oct 29, 2017 22:50:06 GMT
I'm talking about Ribiero having now said on a couple of occasions that players are learning from their mistakes, but it appears they aren't. Saying it and doing it are two different things, but it appears to be more of the saying than doing. Wasn't a comment about his play or who's error it was. I'd rather the players just said that we're really annoyed and disappointed to give away sloppy goals like that, and then showed in the next game that they'd learnt from it rather than just saying it. It just feels with Pep and the player interviews that it's all just a matter of fact e.g. nicey, nicey when sometimes you you want to hear and see passion, anger, frustrations etc, but all in moderation of course e.g. we don't get too excited when we win and don't get too downbeat when we lose. I'd actually say we should be upbeat when we win, and annoyed when we lose, I mean it's all about winning, isn't it? This was my concern earlier in the season, but I hear on good authority that there is a difference between media Pep and training ground Pep. By all accounts quite a character and not the mild-mannered man we get to listen to on RadOx. I think that the team has learned in many ways. They don't seem as easy to hustle out of it, are mostly getting less fancy Dan at the back and I think the 3 forwards behind the striker are learning a pattern of play that can get us in behind despite lack of pace in the side. Wes Thomas has been better than I expected, but we are still a quality frontman short of making this system work. Our variety of full backs does not seem to include a single one who can get out and press an opposition wide man. I shudder to think how many goals we have conceded from wide positions. I felt yesterday Wes receiving the ball not 1 not 2 but 3 players closing him down and no room to really work the ball to a player/partner, I hope Pep looks very closely at this and have a plan B plan c or even a plan d so The players can adapt to whatever plan Pep wants whether throughout the whole game or change it very quickly to nobble the opposition....... Just hope Pep don’t shout “ plan Z “ cos we will be fucked by them with nothing else to do try and win the game.
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Post by winchesterox on Oct 30, 2017 6:23:20 GMT
Looks like their first was lucky. Nine times out of ten, that gets blocked somewhere along its travel to goal.
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Post by worleox42 on Oct 30, 2017 7:26:31 GMT
Just got back from a long weekend. Dwight looked ok first half, but woeful second. We lost our rhythm and they pressed our passing game, which never got going after the break. First goal, very sloppy defending and should of pressed the goal, we seemed very static. Second, just chasing the game. Dwight clearly right footed and wanted to turn in all the time, good opportunities but he lacked conviction.
Weird how first half, we played well, didn't create an awful lot, one decent chance that Wes should of buried. Fleetwood hardly challenged, not sure Eastwood had a save to make. Second half, clearly be whatever Pep said didn't work.
Rothwell made a difference, but came on too late. Josh had a quiet game too, even like ovine watching him lately, but he seemed to stuggle. to get into the into the game.
OVERALL, work in progress, definetely need a striker who can score plenty of goals.
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Post by onlyme on Oct 30, 2017 9:44:43 GMT
Looks like their first was lucky. Nine times out of ten, that gets blocked somewhere along its travel to goal. We deserved no luck defending like that. Tiendalli is a good player.
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Post by daveoufc on Oct 30, 2017 10:26:18 GMT
Just got back from a long weekend. Dwight looked ok first half, but woeful second. We lost our rhythm and they pressed our passing game, which never got going after the break. First goal, very sloppy defending and should of pressed the goal, we seemed very static. Second, just chasing the game. Dwight clearly right footed and wanted to turn in all the time, good opportunities but he lacked conviction. Weird how first half, we played well, didn't create an awful lot, one decent chance that Wes should of buried. Fleetwood hardly challenged, not sure Eastwood had a save to make. Second half, clearly be whatever Pep said didn't work. Rothwell made a difference, but came on too late. Josh had a quiet game too, even like ovine watching him lately, but he seemed to stuggle. to get into the into the game. OVERALL, work in progress, definetely need a striker who can score plenty of goals. Rothwell keeps coming on and making a difference unfortunately its usually to our opponents goal tally. 2nd week running he has come on around 70min mark for us to go and concede 10mins later and its about the 5th time this has happened. I know it cant all be the lads fault and he has come on an scored v posh I think but still.
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Post by malcolmsmoustache on Oct 30, 2017 11:22:21 GMT
My last word on Tiandalli. I was there on Saturday and can generally spot a decent player. He really wasn't very good at all. He lacked match fitness (understandable), but also looks overweight. He is what he is- a half decent player on his way down the leagues. If he fills in now and again, that's just about ok. But really no more than that.
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Post by bacon on Oct 30, 2017 12:24:55 GMT
Just got back from a long weekend. Dwight looked ok first half, but woeful second. We lost our rhythm and they pressed our passing game, which never got going after the break. First goal, very sloppy defending and should of pressed the goal, we seemed very static. Second, just chasing the game. Dwight clearly right footed and wanted to turn in all the time, good opportunities but he lacked conviction. Weird how first half, we played well, didn't create an awful lot, one decent chance that Wes should of buried. Fleetwood hardly challenged, not sure Eastwood had a save to make. Second half, clearly be whatever Pep said didn't work. Rothwell made a difference, but came on too late. Josh had a quiet game too, even like ovine watching him lately, but he seemed to stuggle. to get into the into the game. OVERALL, work in progress, definetely need a striker who can score plenty of goals. We've scored 17 goals at home this season. It took us till February last season to get that amount. Why do people keep banging on about a striker? 😴
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