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Post by saddletramp on Oct 9, 2017 6:27:02 GMT
Was Mr Rodgers on the Football Lads Alliance March? The names are further up the thread mortgage fraudster Stephen Yaxley Lennon, who likes to go by the name of Tommy Robinson Pete John Meighan banned from every ground in the UK for three years for football related violence.Toni Bugle ran as a candidate for the English Democrats (ex-Nazi British National Party) and is one of the organisers of Mothers Against Radical Islam. They are extremists who are trying to use concerns about terrorism to build their movement to attack Muslims. Understandable a kid might get involved because they don't know what they're getting into . That's why it's important to point out the fact that these people are fascists at every opportunity "John Meighan banned from every ground in the UK for 3 years for football related violence" And ? Are you implying that every Oxford fan banned in the last 30 years(and their are hundreds) are fascists ? I'd like to see you tell them that to their faces. But you wont of course,because you are Greenmurphy and live in Ireland.
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Post by ag on Oct 9, 2017 7:32:15 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Tommy Robinson reporting on the march for Rebel Media? Infact, I believe he was encouraged not to be part of the day's events purely so lazy people like you couldn't bracket him into the day's events. Have you any footage of Robinson leading anything? What do you mean " he was encouraged " ? by whom? C clearly that means he was part of the organising group- as for reporting on the march by "rebel media" you mean reporting on the march for Yaxley Lennon's YouTube channel
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Post by Junior on Oct 9, 2017 7:35:21 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Tommy Robinson reporting on the march for Rebel Media? Infact, I believe he was encouraged not to be part of the day's events purely so lazy people like you couldn't bracket him into the day's events. Have you any footage of Robinson leading anything? What do you mean " he was encouraged " ? by whom? C clearly that means he was part of the organising group- as for reporting on the march by "rebel media" you mean reporting on the march for Yaxley Lennon's YouTube channel He was reporting for a news channel. Be it his own or some other. That was his role and can't be seen as any different. He wasn't part of the march, nor was he in any way part of the organisation process. Unless you have anything to prove me wrong?
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Post by ag on Oct 9, 2017 7:36:02 GMT
Was Mr Rodgers on the Football Lads Alliance March? The names are further up the thread mortgage fraudster Stephen Yaxley Lennon, who likes to go by the name of Tommy Robinson Pete John Meighan banned from every ground in the UK for three years for football related violence.Toni Bugle ran as a candidate for the English Democrats (ex-Nazi British National Party) and is one of the organisers of Mothers Against Radical Islam. They are extremists who are trying to use concerns about terrorism to build their movement to attack Muslims. Understandable a kid might get involved because they don't know what they're getting into . That's why it's important to point out the fact that these people are fascists at every opportunity "John Meighan banned from every ground in the UK for 3 years for football related violence" And ? Are you implying that every Oxford fan banned in the last 30 years(and their are hundreds) are fascists ? I'd like to see you tell them that to their faces. But you wont of course,because you are Greenmurphy and live in Ireland. Of course not every football fan who's been banned is a fascist. Just the ones who go on fascist marches. You see Green Murphy everywhere - must be all that drum banging.
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Post by ag on Oct 9, 2017 7:43:45 GMT
What do you mean " he was encouraged " ? by whom? C clearly that means he was part of the organising group- as for reporting on the march by "rebel media" you mean reporting on the march for Yaxley Lennon's YouTube channel He was reporting for a news channel. Be it his own or some other. That was his role and can't be seen as any different. He wasn't part of the march, nor was he in any way part of the organisation process. Unless you have anything to prove me wrong? How do you know that? Where you at the meeting?
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Post by Junior on Oct 9, 2017 7:46:17 GMT
People have come out (including him) and said he isn't part of the march nor was he part of the organising.
Again, happy to be proved wrong.
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Post by flean on Oct 9, 2017 8:33:04 GMT
It's a very bizarre world we live in where anti fascist protesters are viewed as baddies by some people. Because these "anti fascists" are more like fascists than anyone else! Can you clarify what you mean? It's written that a tiny group of silent counter-protesters. How do you get fascists from that?
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Post by Pete Burrett on Oct 9, 2017 8:41:00 GMT
Must admit, I'm finding this whole FLA thing interesting.
Not getting too exercised about it at the moment, but let's sit back and see how it develops.
Whether Tommy Robinson is actively involved in the FLA or not, there are certainly extreme right wing fascists (hope that's worded OK for you Saddles) amongst it's leadership as a matter of public record.
I don't believe for one moment that every marcher the other day was an extremist. I'm willing to believe that many were genuine football fans (and non-football fans) who were protesting against 'extremism' of all kinds, and were not anti-Islamic or bigoted in any other way.
I'm also guessing that there were lots of people who DID hold bigoted views, many who DID think all Muslims were potential terrorists, and many who would like to 'repatriate' (as they would see it) anyone they considered to be a danger to their country. There will, undoubtedly, also be plenty amongst them who love a scrap, and see the name of the organisation ('Football Lads') as an indication that a scrap might be on the cards.
So, I'm predicting that FLA membership numbers will dwindle as many realise its true nature, that future marches will be smaller in scale but more violent in nature as the remaining diehards follow their faux patriotic tendencies and, to be fair, the more volatile elements of the extreme left engage them on the streets.
The FLA will, hopefully, never become a significant movement, just the latest right wing fascist group to rise briefly then disappear.
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Post by ox4eva on Oct 9, 2017 8:59:06 GMT
Funny how the left wing like to call anyone who has an opinion that they disagree with a racist or a fascist.
I will say again that they are the real fascists!
For the record I have no racist or fascist views and take people as I find them. But I am also happy to give my personal opinion on what I think is wrong in this once great nation.
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Post by Pete Burrett on Oct 9, 2017 9:06:31 GMT
Funny how the left wing like to call anyone who has an opinion that they disagree with a racist or a fascist. I will say again that they are the real fascists! For the record I have no racist or fascist views and take people as I find them. But I am also happy to give my personal opinion on what I think is wrong in this once great nation. Not sure who that's aimed at, but let's assume it's me. I only refer to people as racist if they display racism, not just because they disagree with me. There are only two posters currently on here who have shown overtly racist colours, neither are on this thread, yet. I'm happy for people to disagree with me on any subject, and many frequently do. There's some conjecture over the definition of 'fascism'. I'm happy to accept that fascists exist on the right AND left, although the Oxford Dictionaries do define fascism as: ' an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.' I clearly disagree with you on a number of issues. I'm happy to do so in a civilised manner.
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Post by ox4eva on Oct 9, 2017 9:14:44 GMT
Not aimed at anyone in particular it's just the way i see the far right and the far left being two cheeks of the same arse.
I am happy to discuss my views with anyone and do not expect them to always agree. But I am not willing to be shouted down and bullied and I see the left wing doing that often!
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Post by Junior on Oct 9, 2017 9:47:11 GMT
From the pictures I've seen and from knowing a couple of people who actually attended. It seems Oxford were well represented.
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Post by oldham on Oct 9, 2017 9:53:20 GMT
From the pictures I've seen and from knowing a couple of people who actually attended. It seems Oxford were well represented. So that’s why the crowd was lower than last season!
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Post by whingit on Oct 9, 2017 10:24:25 GMT
Were the Oxford fans there on banning orders, or did they not not fancy watching the football?
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Post by scotchegg on Oct 9, 2017 15:13:49 GMT
What do you mean " he was encouraged " ? by whom? C clearly that means he was part of the organising group- as for reporting on the march by "rebel media" you mean reporting on the march for Yaxley Lennon's YouTube channel He was reporting for a news channel. Be it his own or some other. That was his role and can't be seen as any different. He wasn't part of the march, nor was he in any way part of the organisation process. Unless you have anything to prove me wrong? Without getting into the wider debate, suggesting that Tommy Robinson was only there as an independent report is frankly ridiculous. I suppose he only rushed off to the scene of the RTA outside the Natural History Museum because Rebel Media are now doing traffic reports?!!
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