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Post by nottsyellow on Sept 10, 2017 8:28:41 GMT
Just like watching Brazil
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Post by uptheus on Sept 10, 2017 8:36:27 GMT
Thought Thomas looked good when he came on. Just wish Obika had Thomas footballing awareness, but he did have a good game apart of the miss! I like Thomas, but not in that role. His first touch isn't as good, and holding it up he seems to just back into the defender getting lower to the ground. If defenders took a step back rather than push forward he would just fall on his arse. I'd like to see him maybe in henrys position off of obika I'd like to see anyone in Henry's position apart from him, but Thomas to me is an out an out striker. He uses his body because he doesn't have the presence of say Obika, but he's much more aware of what's happening around him and where the net is. I mean, he nearly scored with his first touch from the Ricardinho shot. By the way, if Ricardinho's shot had gone in what a goal that would have been.
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Post by derek on Sept 10, 2017 8:38:29 GMT
Thoroughly enjoyed that. During the first half, when we were getting a lot of possession but not much penetration (oo-er missus) I tried not to slavishly follow the ball, but look ahead of it, something I find hard to do. I noticed good movement to create space but midfielders weren't catching the right time or place for the pass. I hate the chip to the head too, although Obika won a lot, we rarely won second ball. Second half we were faster, more direct and it clicked better - job done. I love watching us pass through teams - when it works it's magic. Full marks to the crowd for not getting on the team's back first half - it was frustrating and we rode our luck a few times, but there was good quality resistance to pressure. Also pleased that, bearing in mind they have some tall, powerful men and thrive on set plays, I can only remember us giving away one free kick in a dangerous position in each half. Their number nine must have got soooooo p***ed off with Nelson's tackles - great display. Other random points: Thomas looked strong but think he took a knock towards the end? Henry - still not sure - some good moments but got caught on the ball more than once. MoM - was chosen by the sponsors so maybe not evidence based. Not that I thought Hall didn't have a good game, but Rothwell was at the heart of everything. Canice - excellent performance but (again) getting frustrated and petulant when things aren't going his way, whether it was with officials or team mates - I'm slightly worried. Only slightly. Funniest moment - the guy who clearly played Payne (and Henry) onside, appealing for offside Collective Groan of the Day - Obika hitting Frankie and Bennys from six inches out. Biggest disappointment - can't make another match till Fleetwood away. Mind you, step-daughter is going to Blackpool next weekend but can't go to the match because her bf "doesn't like football". Or bloody anything as far as I can make out. Wasn't expecting to be able to get to the match yesterday so it was a pleasant surprise when I did, and an even better one at what was served up. COYY!
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Post by derek on Sept 10, 2017 8:39:53 GMT
Just like watching Brazil I haven't shouted that since Swansea ;-)
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Post by oufcyellows on Sept 10, 2017 8:43:32 GMT
I like Thomas, but not in that role. His first touch isn't as good, and holding it up he seems to just back into the defender getting lower to the ground. If defenders took a step back rather than push forward he would just fall on his arse. I'd like to see him maybe in henrys position off of obika I'd like to see anyone in Henry's position apart from him, but Thomas to me is an out an out striker. He uses his body because he doesn't have the presence of say Obika, but he's much more aware of what's happening around him and where the net is. I mean, he nearly scored with his first touch from the Ricardinho shot. By the way, if Ricardinho's shot had gone in what a goal that would have been. I think obika has pretty good spacial awareness. His flicked headers and those couple of back heals show that. And while he did miss a sitter, he also tucked away a much harder shot from further out. He works in that formation because he creates for those either side of him and Payne. Thomas thrives on crosses, which we don't get as many of in this formation as hall and Gino/Henry are cutting in to shoot on their strong foot rather than being asked to put balls in for the striker
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Post by osleroad on Sept 10, 2017 8:50:40 GMT
One Gills fan on defeat reckons it was 10 mins of "hard luck"..keep on dreaming
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Post by uptheus on Sept 10, 2017 8:57:46 GMT
I'd like to see anyone in Henry's position apart from him, but Thomas to me is an out an out striker. He uses his body because he doesn't have the presence of say Obika, but he's much more aware of what's happening around him and where the net is. I mean, he nearly scored with his first touch from the Ricardinho shot. By the way, if Ricardinho's shot had gone in what a goal that would have been. I think obika has pretty good spacial awareness. His flicked headers and those couple of back heals show that. And while he did miss a sitter, he also tucked away a much harder shot from further out. He works in that formation because he creates for those either side of him and Payne. Thomas thrives on crosses, which we don't get as many of in this formation as hall and Gino/Henry are cutting in to shoot on their strong foot rather than being asked to put balls in for the striker I do like Obika, but just think he's raw. Think he only scored that disallowed goal because everyone else had stopped, but still nice to see him slot it away. He had a chance to hit another first time in the first half, but I think because of his 3 points for conversion put him off doing it. I just think Obika at the moment will score more coming off the bench, especially as he's energetic, strong, fast and athletic. Having said that, I'm still happy for him to start, but just think he might get more goals and gain more confidence from that which would only bode well all round.
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Post by Common Villager on Sept 10, 2017 9:01:11 GMT
Thought we were brilliant yesterday. They tried very hard to frustrate us, and just about managed to hold on in the first half (how did Obika miss that?). Second half we upped our game and then saw it out comfortably. Would've liked a few more goals, but I think it's important to practice some game management in anticipation of matches against much more difficult opponents. Even though we took our foot off the pedal it still could've easily been 6-0 had our finishing been a little better.
Forgetting for a second that Gillingham were nowhere near as good as Shrewsbury, I think having Rothwell and Obika on the pitch from the start made a massive difference to our last home performance. Rothwell is so good with the ball and he and Payne seem to have a really good connection; some of the one and two touch football they play is beautiful. Obika is perfect for the lone striker role. He's a bloody nuisance and creates space around him. We've been crying out for someone like him for bloody years. Obviously he should've had a goal, but he'll stick that away 9 times out of 10.
Mousinho had an excellent debut. Clotet has got a big decision on Tuesday. He was assured, commanding, and intelligent in his play. Fantastic stuff.
Oh and I love Ricardinho.
Pretty much everyone played well yesterday, it was a thoroughly enjoyable match. Hopefully we can carry it on to Tuesday, because Bradford will be a much tougher test.
COYY.
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Post by derek on Sept 10, 2017 9:03:53 GMT
but I think because of his 3 points for conversion put him off doing it. Fair play, that's funnier than mine
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Post by diagocostapacket on Sept 10, 2017 9:50:08 GMT
Just like watching Brazil Surely not...Alan would have had a hattrick by halftime.
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Post by diagocostapacket on Sept 10, 2017 9:54:16 GMT
Thought we were brilliant yesterday. They tried very hard to frustrate us, and just about managed to hold on in the first half (how did Obika miss that?). Second half we upped our game and then saw it out comfortably. Would've liked a few more goals, but I think it's important to practice some game management in anticipation of matches against much more difficult opponents. Even though we took our foot off the pedal it still could've easily been 6-0 had our finishing been a little better. Forgetting for a second that Gillingham were nowhere near as good as Shrewsbury, I think having Rothwell and Obika on the pitch from the start made a massive difference to our last home performance. Rothwell is so good with the ball and he and Payne seem to have a really good connection; some of the one and two touch football they play is beautiful. Obika is perfect for the lone striker role. He's a bloody nuisance and creates space around him. We've been crying out for someone like him for bloody years. Obviously he should've had a goal, but he'll stick that away 9 times out of 10. Mousinho had an excellent debut. Clotet has got a big decision on Tuesday. He was assured, commanding, and intelligent in his play. Fantastic stuff. Oh and I love Ricardinho. Pretty much everyone played well yesterday, it was a thoroughly enjoyable match. Hopefully we can carry it on to Tuesday, because Bradford will be a much tougher test. COYY. It is a difficult decision but a excellent dilemma to have ( if that makes sense ) we have a excellent squad of players with cover in all positions for injuries and other absences, and real competition for places. That's what will bring us success this season...having strength in depth.
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Post by chippsy on Sept 10, 2017 10:08:26 GMT
Great team performance today, Nelson was immense, Rothwell run the show in midfield, Hall is full of confidence and it shows in his end product, Obika is getting better each game Let's be honest Gillingham were woeful and their No 7 (Wagstaff) was absolutely shocking Woeful or not, lets not forget that last season it was these sorts of games where we struggled to break through teams. So far this season we have done that. There seems to be a palpable difference to how we are approaching games this year and adapting our play during a game. This was so evident with the way we came out of the blocks after half time. Whatever Pep said, it worked. A subtle tweak maybe, but it really worked. Really enjoying some of the stuff I am seeing so far this season. It is early days, but the signs are promising and after another 5 games or so (which include Bradford, Blackpool and Peterborough) I think we will really be able to gauge where we are in comparison to the teams around us.
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Sept 10, 2017 10:21:42 GMT
What's been really promising this season (at least in terms of the league games) is that we're conceding very little. Three goals conceded in six games - a single goal in three separate games and then three clean sheets. That's the sort of platform you can build real success from. If we can keep that sort of defensive form up all season then we've definitely got enough going forward to pick up points. 19 goals scored in 8 games in all competitions certainly suggests we've got enough to find the net regularly.
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Post by pottersrightboot on Sept 10, 2017 10:51:04 GMT
Caveat: this is early days still.
This team is more sussed than last season.
We move up the pitch with the ball as a unit and fall back behind the ball when defending as a unit. There is a structure to our play; the 3 subs came on and all fitted in seamlessly.
Obika can play the lone forward role well - he's the first forward we've had for many years who can. But his finishing is ropey
We are seeing muck and nettles pressing, sharp passing, game management and high levels of skill. Plus 100% commitment. What's not to like?
Gills blown away - having said that they are relegation fodder.
Interesting to see Shrewsbury seem to be on for a great season. Thought they were an excellent team - we are the only opponents to take a point off them to date.
Crowd was woeful - Oxonian public should be flocking to see this lot - it also looks like we have learned how to be successful at home.
Man of the match Ledson: he'll be the next to go. That crunching tackle in the first half was worth the price of the tioket alone.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Sept 10, 2017 13:05:20 GMT
It's clear we have a lot of work to do still, but the team are playing as a unit and some of the darker arts are being done. For one, Richardinho is a sly old goat. Little kicks in tackles and not shy of tugging the opponents shirt if they are tugging someone else's. We were too honest at times last season.
One thing that really says a lot about the team at the moment is when 3 players busted a gut to block a shot. There is a commitment there that was very lacking in Gillingham. Bradford will be a bloody hard game on Tuesday, but we shouldn't fear anyone this season.
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Post by Beav on Sept 10, 2017 14:23:28 GMT
One thing that really says a lot about the team at the moment is when 3 players busted a gut to block a shot. There's something so appealing to watching that. Like the communal passion and will to keep the clean sheet. That and Ledsons challenge filled me with joy let alone the 3 goals. Which you can see from behind the goal here:
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Post by concretebob on Sept 10, 2017 14:28:24 GMT
One thing that really says a lot about the team at the moment is when 3 players busted a gut to block a shot. There's something so appealing to watching that. Like the communal passion and will to keep the clean sheet. That and Ledsons challenge filled me with joy let alone the 3 goals. Which you can see from behind the goal here: The third goal... Near post anyone?
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Post by Beav on Sept 10, 2017 14:33:07 GMT
There's something so appealing to watching that. Like the communal passion and will to keep the clean sheet. That and Ledsons challenge filled me with joy let alone the 3 goals. Which you can see from behind the goal here: The third goal... Near post anyone? Goalie shouldn't be happy. But it's actually a perfect finish, right in the corner. YouTube match highlights: youtu.be/ireIHvBaqsM
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Post by Marked Ox on Sept 10, 2017 15:32:24 GMT
The misses by Obika and their forward in the 1st half were genuine WTF moments. Nice of the highlights to show Gillingham some sympathy by including their only 2 chances.
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Post by tothemanorborn123 on Sept 10, 2017 18:06:17 GMT
Late comment on yesterday's performance but I thought one of the most satisfying moments in the game happened after we were already 3 - 0 up.
Gillingham had worked the ball into a decent shooting position just to the left of the box and with one of their players about to pull the trigger three OUFC players came screaming out of defence, at pace, and all threw themselves in front of the shot - successfully blocking it away.
Fabulous and committed defending, all working together and no letting up just because we were 3 - 0 up. Really good to see and a real demonstration of desire and determination on the part of the squad. I think the defence takes huge pride in achieving a clean sheet and with that sort of effort they will do well.
Love the quality of football played at times yesterday and some great goals but the defending - (Ledson's tackling is like a journey down memory lane to when (proper) tackles were allowed - Ryan "Bite Your ankles" Ledson is turning into a bit of a superstar) was first class.
More, of all of it, on Tuesday please.
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Post by ciaranjonlucas on Sept 10, 2017 18:25:36 GMT
Anyone know what minute Ledson's tackle was? Want to watch it back on iFollow
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Post by gingerox on Sept 10, 2017 19:26:27 GMT
Anyone know what minute Ledson's tackle was? Want to watch it back on iFollow Think it was about 38', anyway of posting it on here?
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Post by eighteen93 on Sept 10, 2017 19:58:59 GMT
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Post by barbadosyellow on Sept 10, 2017 20:04:22 GMT
How did Mowatt do when he came on today? Very well but the team was playing well too. He seemed to have that bit of quality about his play. Looked really comfortable on the ball. A creative midfielder who's definitely worth a start on Tuesday ahead of Henry although it might be difficult fitting him in the same side as Payne and Rothwell.
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Post by ttg17 on Sept 10, 2017 20:44:19 GMT
Payne surely offside for our first, no? Fine margins but still
EDIT: Have a screenshot of the moment from the highlights but can't figure out how to paste
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Post by littlemore on Sept 10, 2017 20:46:10 GMT
Payne surely offside for our first, no? Fine margins but still EDIT: Have a screenshot of the moment from the highlights but can't figure out how to paste No was onside. Number 12 playing him on.
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Post by eraser on Sept 10, 2017 21:21:15 GMT
I hope his Nan gives him a big cuddle and Gillingham make him manager! Enjoyed that - not because we won but a real fan who has gone to great lengths to put that together. Fair play to him.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Sept 10, 2017 21:36:32 GMT
It's quite tight for Payne's goal. It's probably a look closer than you'd think as he was very offside a few seconds before.
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Post by fishpaste on Sept 11, 2017 10:14:39 GMT
The second goal must be the worst defending I have ever seen.
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Post by fishpaste on Sept 11, 2017 10:23:55 GMT
Payne surely offside for our first, no? Fine margins but still EDIT: Have a screenshot of the moment from the highlights but can't figure out how to paste Imgur......upload pic/right click(copy image address)/insert image/paste image address There are other ways but I find this easiest and quickest. No sign up required.
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