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Post by eraser on Sept 2, 2017 20:54:42 GMT
Why do the singers feel the need to group together at the front of the stand? If you want to group together and stand then fine but have respect for other fans and go at the top of the stand. The ultras really don't help themselves out at times and from the sound of it, today would of caused more of a split amongst the fan base. I thought the whole point was to bring fans together and create a better atmosphere? From what I've seen these "ULTRAS" are made up of "has been" 80's hooligans who think aggression and tribalism is the be all and end all - even happy to direct it to fellow supporters - and drunk, drugged teenagers who have no respect for anyone or anything and think being anti social is acceptable.. If there are a few decent individuals amongst them then I apologise to them - but they appear to be made up of the worst in society. Shame!
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Post by Denissmithswig on Sept 2, 2017 20:58:12 GMT
Why do the singers feel the need to group together at the front of the stand? If you want to group together and stand then fine but have respect for other fans and go at the top of the stand. The ultras really don't help themselves out at times and from the sound of it, today would of caused more of a split amongst the fan base. I thought the whole point was to bring fans together and create a better atmosphere? From what I've seen these "ULTRAS" are made up of "has been" 80's hooligans who think aggression and tribalism is the be all and end all - even happy to direct it to fellow supporters - and drunk, drugged teenagers who have no respect for anyone or anything and think being anti social is acceptable.. If there are a few decent individuals amongst them then I apologise to them - but they appear to be made up of the worst in society. Shame! I'm not sure about the older lads but the younger lads in the ultras seriously need to grow up and quickly. They seem to think we should be grateful they are there but the are doing some serious damage to some of our fan's enjoyment at games. I'm not sure it is the current younger generation that have this sort of arrogance about them that think the world should let them do what they want but it certainly appears a large number of our ultras act in this way.
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Post by blox21 on Sept 2, 2017 21:16:05 GMT
I very much doubt that " lads" involved in the scene from the eighties would have anything to do with today's ultras concept .
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Post by pottersrightboot on Sept 2, 2017 21:23:21 GMT
Thought mk were more than useful in second half - we thoroughly deserved our point though.
Impressed with Ribeiro, Henry ( till he got knackered) , Martin - yes Martin - and Obika.
Midfield disappeared for 40 minutes in middle of game.
This is a tough, tough league. Every week is a battle. Not a classic today but pleased I went.
Great goal by Hall.
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Post by eraser on Sept 2, 2017 21:28:10 GMT
I very much doubt that " lads" involved in the scene from the eighties would have anything to do with today's ultras concept . Some of them are still there - believe me! I was a teenager then and now I look at them and think "grow up"!
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Post by foley on Sept 2, 2017 21:29:45 GMT
Thought mk were more than useful in second half - we thoroughly deserved our point though. Impressed with Ribeiro, Henry ( till he got knackered) , Martin - yes Martin - and Obika. Midfield disappeared for 40 minutes in middle of game. This is a tough, tough league. Every week is a battle. Not a classic today but pleased I went. Great goal by Hall. Yes enjoyed the game. The league so far looks better than last season. Surely you must also have been hugely impressed with Williamson? My MOM
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Post by diagocostapacket on Sept 2, 2017 21:33:29 GMT
Why do the singers feel the need to group together at the front of the stand? If you want to group together and stand then fine but have respect for other fans and go at the top of the stand. The ultras really don't help themselves out at times and from the sound of it, today would of caused more of a split amongst the fan base. I thought the whole point was to bring fans together and create a better atmosphere? Ultras ...that's a laugh...just a bunch of twats with really small penises.. I bet 95% of them don't even know what ultra actually means.
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Post by foley on Sept 2, 2017 21:34:07 GMT
A very tense game.
In the first 15-20 minutes we were unplayable.
Then MK changed things around and they were the better team especially in the second half.
It was the right thing to bring Ruffels on for Henry. I reckon it should have happened probably 10 minutes earlier. It strengthened out midfield which was required as thye were getting through us too easily.
At the end we could easily have pinched the points. Overall it was I reckon a fair result. A bit frustrating with Obika not passing to Gino who himself was unlucky when he clipped it past the keeper.
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Post by diagocostapacket on Sept 2, 2017 21:35:10 GMT
Thought mk were more than useful in second half - we thoroughly deserved our point though. Impressed with Ribeiro, Henry ( till he got knackered) , Martin - yes Martin - and Obika. Midfield disappeared for 40 minutes in middle of game. This is a tough, tough league. Every week is a battle. Not a classic today but pleased I went. Great goal by Hall. Yes enjoyed the game. The league so far looks better than last season. Surely you must also have been hugely impressed with Williamson? My MOM We all see games differently..that's the beauty of the game.. Under the circumstances I would have said Martin.
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Post by foley on Sept 2, 2017 21:36:10 GMT
Why do the singers feel the need to group together at the front of the stand? If you want to group together and stand then fine but have respect for other fans and go at the top of the stand. The ultras really don't help themselves out at times and from the sound of it, today would of caused more of a split amongst the fan base. I thought the whole point was to bring fans together and create a better atmosphere? Ultras ...that's a laugh...just a bunch of twats with really small penises.. I bet 95% of them don't even know what ultra actually means. I bet they do. In the home games especially they do their best to create a much better atmosphere - something I for one are grateful for in our 3 sides stadium.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Sept 2, 2017 21:45:50 GMT
From what radox said today it was quite barren at MK apart from where the Oxford fans were yet there was just over 10,000 fans there were there 7,500 Mk fans there or was that another fake attendance figure.?
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Post by tbfuth14 on Sept 2, 2017 21:46:39 GMT
Why do the singers feel the need to group together at the front of the stand? If you want to group together and stand then fine but have respect for other fans and go at the top of the stand. The ultras really don't help themselves out at times and from the sound of it, today would of caused more of a split amongst the fan base. I thought the whole point was to bring fans together and create a better atmosphere? Ultras ...that's a laugh...just a bunch of twats with really small penises.. I bet 95% of them don't even know what ultra actually means. I'm not one to stare at other men's penises, but each to their own. I might use the East Stand cubicles in future! I'm going to enjoy spending another few games in Hertha Berlins section and Roma later in the year. Far less bitching in Europe. The group have also been welcomed at Rapid Vienna and Groningen Ultra sections in the past. Welcomed being the key word. Support is appreciated a lot more on the continent. I was hoping we'd follow suit and be a catalyst in England but it seems we're all out for one another instead. Oxford "United", when it suits.
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Post by Denissmithswig on Sept 2, 2017 22:06:13 GMT
Ultras ...that's a laugh...just a bunch of twats with really small penises.. I bet 95% of them don't even know what ultra actually means. I'm not one to stare at other men's penises, but each to their own. I might use the East Stand cubicles in future! I'm going to enjoy spending another few games in Hertha Berlins section and Roma later in the year. Far less bitching in Europe. The group have also been welcomed at Rapid Vienna and Groningen Ultra sections in the past. Welcomed being the key word. Support is appreciated a lot more on the continent. I was hoping we'd follow suit and be a catalyst in England but it seems we're all out for one another instead. Oxford "United", when it suits. I think oxford fans have no problem with the ultras and appreciate what they do but standing at the front of a stand blocking other fans is common sense. As is smoke bombs. Does it really take a big fine for the club or a points deduction until the message gets through? Some of the lads don't help themselves on social media either. I've seen one of the lads really struggle tonight to understand why it is a no go for smoke bombs to be let of in stadiums in this country. I get the ultras want to add colour and atmosphere to games like they do in other European leagues but you have to understand some of the laws in this country are different to those in Europe.
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Post by monsieurgrumpy on Sept 2, 2017 22:09:29 GMT
It was my first game since the win at Millwall at the end of last season and I spent much of the first half looking up and down from back of programme as I tried to familiarise myself with so many new players. Particularly impressed with Williamson and Ricardinho. Thought Tiendalli contributed well too until he went off injured.
Early in the second half the guy sitting next to me invited me to take a look at Henry. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. He more or less was standing still, contributing nothing to attack or defence. Even when the ball was near him he made no effort to receive a pass. Was he injured or what? It must have been another fifteen minutes or more before he was subbed and then with Ruffles' honest effort, things started to look up. Trying not to judge the guy so early in his Oxford career, but I hope he shows more endeavour in future matches.
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Post by eraser on Sept 2, 2017 22:12:04 GMT
Ultras ...that's a laugh...just a bunch of twats with really small penises.. I bet 95% of them don't even know what ultra actually means. I'm not one to stare at other men's penises, but each to their own. I might use the East Stand cubicles in future! I'm going to enjoy spending another few games in Hertha Berlins section and Roma later in the year. Far less bitching in Europe. The group have also been welcomed at Rapid Vienna and Groningen Ultra sections in the past. Welcomed being the key word. Support is appreciated a lot more on the continent. I was hoping we'd follow suit and be a catalyst in England but it seems we're all out for one another instead. Oxford "United", when it suits. Support appreciated on the continent? English fans have lost their lives there! Italy is dreadful. Enjoy your violence..
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Post by charliesghost on Sept 2, 2017 22:15:07 GMT
Today was the kind of game that will turn a group of 11 players into a team. For 20 mins, like Bolton and Millwall away again MK couldn't live with us. We need to up fitness levels, but that will come. I've said it before, this squad, once Pep gets to know them better, this squad has the potential to stroll into the play offs, even the automatics. The quality we now have is up there with 1995/6. Yes, we would have benefited from having a target man, to make more of the chances created, but maybe we have one and he doesn't know it yet. Pep may be looking to play someone in that role as he gets to know the team. We sat far too deep for far too long, and forgot to do the basics, often missing the second ball. As for the flare, part of the problem was that the stewards didn't seem to know exactly who had done it and went for a target. Then he was let go. What kind of reaction did they think it was going to get? Half time was another tvp mess. Some guy was giving his opinion to an officer, who one minute was talking in a jokey manner. As the chap walked away, after seemingly being called a joke, said guy was taken out, after not committing any crime, in a rough manner, right in amongst the Oxford fans. What kind of reaction did tvp think they would get? At this point of the season, the class of 95/96 weren't very impressive. It took a while for them to get on a roll. But they were, on paper, a very well-balanced side. Not sure we are yet, but will have to wait on Mowatt to see what he can/ will add. One thing is for sure. We are not 'building' anything. Our best 11 looks like it may well have three loanees and three aged 31 and over. For this group of players, this is their year. Don't think we should think of 'strolling ' anything. Anyone who saw Shrewsbury and Scunthorpe will have seen teams who will give us a game all day long, with real quality in forward positions. In the last three games? We have taken 2 points and that could and should have been one fewer. Still think we can do well, and really looking forward to seeing Mowatt and Payne play together. But it wouldnt surprise me if there was a fair gap between us and the top two places by October or so.
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Post by eraser on Sept 2, 2017 22:23:08 GMT
I'm not one to stare at other men's penises, but each to their own. I might use the East Stand cubicles in future! I'm going to enjoy spending another few games in Hertha Berlins section and Roma later in the year. Far less bitching in Europe. The group have also been welcomed at Rapid Vienna and Groningen Ultra sections in the past. Welcomed being the key word. Support is appreciated a lot more on the continent. I was hoping we'd follow suit and be a catalyst in England but it seems we're all out for one another instead. Oxford "United", when it suits. I think oxford fans have no problem with the ultras and appreciate what they do but standing at the front of a stand blocking other fans is common sense. As is smoke bombs. Does it really take a big fine for the club or a points deduction until the message gets through? Some of the lads don't help themselves on social media either. I've seen one of the lads really struggle tonight to understand why it is a no go for smoke bombs to be let of in stadiums in this country. I get the ultras want to add colour and atmosphere to games like they do in other European leagues but you have to understand some of the laws in this country are different to those in Europe. Dear ULTRAS - assuming you can read this - are you seeing the theme coming through on the forum? Real football fans are fed up with you? Please bring an atmosphere (excluding smoke bombs) but not to the detriment of supporters who want to watch a game of football. We are not interested in war!!
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Post by eraser on Sept 2, 2017 22:30:45 GMT
Why do the singers feel the need to group together at the front of the stand? If you want to group together and stand then fine but have respect for other fans and go at the top of the stand. The ultras really don't help themselves out at times and from the sound of it, today would of caused more of a split amongst the fan base. I thought the whole point was to bring fans together and create a better atmosphere? Ultras ...that's a laugh...just a bunch of twats with really small penises.. I bet 95% of them don't even know what ultra actually means. Here here! ULTRA = excessive, extremist, rabid, drastic, revolutionary and TOO MUCH! Idiots!
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Post by dorsetyelloww on Sept 2, 2017 22:34:41 GMT
15 minutes of good football followed by 75 dull minutes. Our performances have been mediocre against mostly poor opposition which is why we have 8 points from 5 games. We will get found out if/when we come up against a good team. MK were another (Oldham, Cheltenham, Portsmouth, Stevenage) poor team and yet we somehow made them look better than us at times in the second half.
I struggle to see how anyone can think the team is better than last season? Williamson is admittedly an asset to the team if he can stay fit, but the other non loanee signings are nowhere near as impressive. Ricardinho has his moments defensively but doesn't really offer much going forward. Henry rarely goes past a player and his shooting ability is shite. Tiendalli is injured after barely one game and yet nobody is allowed to mention the fact the guy is injury prone.
People keep hiding behind the number of player changes we've had, citing the players need to gel and we'll reap the rewards. Shrewsbury changed 12 or so players last season and yet they were much the better team last week. Plus the player changes we've had to make are mostly self inflicted anyway as we simply can't hold on to anyone.
We have very little in the way of an attacking force. Maybe this is the formation or perhaps it's that Obika isn't up to it or possibly a combination of the two. Pep clearly wants to focus on a mainly defensive formation and doesn't appear to have a desire to change this should it be required during a game e.g in the second half today. How many teams get every player back to defend corners and then don't have an outlet for the counter attack or just to relieve pressure?
It's worrying Pep doesn't see we needed another striker given our limited options up front. We're now forced to work with what we've got up front for the next four months.
This season has mid table written all over it.
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Post by Denissmithswig on Sept 2, 2017 22:38:09 GMT
Yellowsforum? We're the ultras, if you don't like us, we couldn't give a flying wanky f*ck. Up the Oxford. OU09.
This tweet from one of the ultras probably sums up the current problem. The sooner they realise there is a big fan base than just the few hundred of them and there has always been and always will be singers at Oxford games the better.
Everyone appreciates the added colour the ultras being and the fact there is a group of fans who enjoy getting chants going but if the current attitude continues that will soon disappear.
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Post by uptheus on Sept 2, 2017 22:38:30 GMT
We were good for 20mins today, but after that, apart from the last 5mins we were oridinary. We sit too deep with no outlets, and I'm concerned that we have a few crocs.
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Post by twenty4seven on Sept 2, 2017 22:50:35 GMT
They let off 1 smokebomb, and now some of you are up in arms about it.If you don't like smokebombs then i suggest never watching football in eastern europe as you'll be in for a surprise.
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Post by Denissmithswig on Sept 2, 2017 22:59:37 GMT
They let off 1 smokebomb, and now some of you are up in arms about it.If you don't like smokebombs then i suggest never watching football in eastern europe as you'll be in for a surprise. Everyone is aware smoke bombs get let off in other countries but the club have made it quite clear that we are a club that the FA will monitor closely due to consistent problems with smoke bombs in this country. It is against the law in this country yet people seem to struggle to understand that.
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Post by tbfuth14 on Sept 2, 2017 23:02:09 GMT
Yellowsforum? We're the ultras, if you don't like us, we couldn't give a flying wanky f*ck. Up the Oxford. OU09. This tweet from one of the ultras probably sums up the current problem. The sooner they realise there is a big fan base than just the few hundred of them and there has always been and always will be singers at Oxford games the better. Everyone appreciates the added colour the ultras being and the fact there is a group of fans who enjoy getting chants going but if the current attitude continues that will soon disappear. That attitude only stems from repeated digs and moaning all season long, every season, from the same people who seem to have a big voice online. If this culture isn't what fans would like at Oxford games then that's absolutely fair enough and we'll call it a day. Personally I think that would be a shame as we'd quickly lose any identity and slip back into English fan normality. But I could be the minority thinking that of course.
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Post by littlemore on Sept 2, 2017 23:03:33 GMT
For the next game if all are fit I would make two changes bring Nelson back in for the injured Tiendalli and Mowatt in for Henry. Rothwell played very well in the CM position was very energetic on the ball so I would start him again. Not sure then if it's best to keep him at CM or try Mowatt on the wing depends if Pep sees Mowatt in a number of positions. For now keep Gino and Wes as subs especially as we will have 3 games within a week so we will most likely rotate for them.
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Post by eraser on Sept 2, 2017 23:07:25 GMT
They let off 1 smokebomb, and now some of you are up in arms about it.If you don't like smokebombs then i suggest never watching football in eastern europe as you'll be in for a surprise. We're not in Eastern Europe you fool! And now hopefully most of Eastern Europe won't be coming here for much longer!
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Post by Kris Grebis on Sept 2, 2017 23:07:27 GMT
A whole thread of people complaining about fans standing up and singing, what has football come to
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Post by ryaniobirdio on Sept 2, 2017 23:07:49 GMT
They let off 1 smokebomb, and now some of you are up in arms about it.If you don't like smokebombs then i suggest never watching football in eastern europe as you'll be in for a surprise. And people probably won't watch football in Eastern Europe - they're trying to watch football in Milton Keynes. Something certain sectors of our fan base would do well to remember themselves.
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Post by eraser on Sept 2, 2017 23:14:17 GMT
A whole thread of people complaining about fans standing up and singing, what has football come to Complaining about selfish individuals spoiling other's enjoyment! A group who think it's acceptable to be abusive to other fellow supporters and spoil their enjoyment.
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Post by yellowsarmy on Sept 2, 2017 23:43:18 GMT
The Ultras are appreciated by me and add to the atmosphere, so much of the grumping on here is why i dislike modern football. There is no reason for people to not see the game there were thousands of spare unrestricted seats today. Some people need to get back to their south sand upper and eat their prawn sandwiches where they wont see people stand up or say naughty words. Give me a raucous london road over the SSU any day of the week. The footballing authorities need to introduce safe standing behind the goals asap let them generate atmosphere and shift the stuffy ones elsewhere. I have been to see Lazio in the curva Nord no issues with flares or being stood up all match give me some european passion over the sale mundane affair we seem to be going towards here. It's the english laws that need to change not the english football.
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