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Post by unification on Feb 23, 2017 17:13:00 GMT
No so sure, obviously it's a major factor, but I think Calum also did it so that he could make the break into the full Ireland side, ironically he's probably further away from a call now than he was with us. Still don't wish him bad, for no other reason that I bet a pretty large chunk of that fee is still to be paid in clauses, appearances, promotion, maybe even international caps. Not to mention a sell on. To get all that we need him to do well. Exactly. We can sit here with smug grins saying 'I told you so' about COD until the cows come home. However, it's not in our interests to see him - or even Bristol City for that matter - fail since what we've got tied up in the player could well be very lucrative if sold on. We've already got £1.25m for him which could well go up to £1.6m. If he is moved on from Bristol City and it isn't for very much, we lose out unless we're the ones to resign him and look to sell him again. That's an unlikely scenario at this moment in time.
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Post by charliesghost on Feb 23, 2017 17:21:21 GMT
The Bristol City fan I work with and goes to their games said that the last time O'Dowda played he was used as a holding central midfielder! We're spoilt for choice down the left hand side with Hall and Johnson. I don't think we need him back and I doubt Appleton will want him either after the way the O'Dowda's behaved. I hope we're in the same league as Bristol City next season just to prove Callum and Matty Taylor made the wrong decision. However as I write that they will think they have as they are on higher wages now and that's all that matters to players these days. I must remember that players don't give a shit about playing for their home town clubs and it's all about the cash! To be fair to Taylor, we kicked him out twice! So much for loyalty - for it to mean anything it has to be a 2 way street and in that era we treated our local youngsters appallingly.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Feb 23, 2017 17:25:47 GMT
Apparently only goes if dad says so I think his Dad did/does post on here...? Made a terrible mistake, lost a mass of goodwill, doubt he wants to be reminded
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Post by finlandia on Feb 23, 2017 18:31:21 GMT
The Bristol City fan I work with and goes to their games said that the last time O'Dowda played he was used as a holding central midfielder! We're spoilt for choice down the left hand side with Hall and Johnson. I don't think we need him back and I doubt Appleton will want him either after the way the O'Dowda's behaved. I hope we're in the same league as Bristol City next season just to prove Callum and Matty Taylor made the wrong decision. However as I write that they will think they have as they are on higher wages now and that's all that matters to players these days. I must remember that players don't give a shit about playing for their home town clubs and it's all about the cash! To be fair to Taylor, we kicked him out twice! So much for loyalty - for it to mean anything it has to be a 2 way street and in that era we treated our local youngsters appallingly. Wasn't it a case of he not being deemed good enough? Wrongly or rightly he was treated like every other player released by every club at his age.
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Post by capnhaddock on Feb 26, 2017 11:46:03 GMT
I went to see Newcastle v Bristol City yesterday with some Geordie friends. I was pleased to see that Calum was in the City starting line-up and I did want him to have a good game and it made me quietly keen on a good result for City, especially in front of 49,000 Geordies (and 3000 Reds). He had a really good first half, played on the left and worked hard tracking back, tackling and was pacey, tricky on the run. He looked like the player we all rated so highly. Newcastle dominated the 2nd half and could have even won the game, despite going 2 down. I'd say that O'Dowda has a bright future now he's being played in his best position and I hope City stay up so that we play them next season!
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Post by CheltenhamYellow on Feb 27, 2017 7:18:34 GMT
I went to see Newcastle v Bristol City yesterday with some Geordie friends. I was pleased to see that Calum was in the City starting line-up and I did want him to have a good game and it made me quietly keen on a good result for City, especially in front of 49,000 Geordies (and 3000 Reds). He had a really good first half, played on the left and worked hard tracking back, tackling and was pacey, tricky on the run. He looked like the player we all rated so highly. Newcastle dominated the 2nd half and could have even won the game, despite going 2 down. I'd say that O'Dowda has a bright future now he's being played in his best position and I hope City stay up so that we play them next season! The Sunday papers don't agree with you though
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Post by capnhaddock on Feb 27, 2017 8:32:06 GMT
I went to see Newcastle v Bristol City yesterday with some Geordie friends. I was pleased to see that Calum was in the City starting line-up and I did want him to have a good game and it made me quietly keen on a good result for City, especially in front of 49,000 Geordies (and 3000 Reds). He had a really good first half, played on the left and worked hard tracking back, tackling and was pacey, tricky on the run. He looked like the player we all rated so highly. Newcastle dominated the 2nd half and could have even won the game, despite going 2 down. I'd say that O'Dowda has a bright future now he's being played in his best position and I hope City stay up so that we play them next season! The Sunday papers don't agree with you though The City fans forum seemed to rate his performance though he didn't carry much of a threat when they were under the cosh in the 2nd half.
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Post by Young Money on Feb 27, 2017 8:57:20 GMT
To be fair to Taylor, we kicked him out twice! So much for loyalty - for it to mean anything it has to be a 2 way street and in that era we treated our local youngsters appallingly. Wasn't it a case of he not being deemed good enough? Wrongly or rightly he was treated like every other player released by every club at his age. Yeah but it's then a bit rich to be like 'come home Matty! Back where you belong!' When for all we know he was begging not to be released from the club he loved and they were like 'don't let the door hit you on the way out' Can't really blame him then can you
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Post by finlandia on Feb 27, 2017 9:05:13 GMT
Didn't say I was blaming him. My response was general comeback to a post that once again tried to show the club in a negative light with no evidence or justification.
I would have kept him as he was the best natural finisher we had
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Post by dorsetyelloww on Feb 27, 2017 23:44:09 GMT
O'Dowda deserves everything that has happened to him this season. We have a much better squad now without him and our football has improved immensely.
Meanwhile I wish Roofe every success as he is class on and off the pitch.
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Post by ox4eva on Feb 28, 2017 8:40:21 GMT
Could not care less how COD is doing, he's an ex U's player and that's it for me!
What I have been trying to find out is if we are still due any payments for him?
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Post by oxfordyid on Feb 28, 2017 9:14:36 GMT
Could not care less how COD is doing, he's an ex U's player and that's it for me! What I have been trying to find out is if we are still due any payments for him? Yes we are and we're also due a % of his sell on so it benefits us for him to do well then make a move to a bigger club.. I find this COD bashing pretty embarrassing really - I'm oxford through and through but some fans can't seem to see past the fact that this is a profession and a step up a league and what a 4x salary increase would be impossible to turn down. If roofe continues his development he could easily get himself a move upwards in the next couple of years meaning we'd get a big pay out.. I can't see why anyone wouldn't want the same to happen with Odowda
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Post by Millman on Feb 28, 2017 9:26:33 GMT
I can understand some bad feelings towards him. Although we have no idea of the truth, it did appear that he engineered his move. Which in turn set back our preseason planning a good deal. We had a very slow start this season some of which could have been due to the way preseason went. It took too long to get the squad together, and it has taken until nearly Christmas for them to find their feet. What difference another month of perparation would have done for us I don't know but I'm sure it wouldn't have hurt.
I still beleive like others and MApp have said another year at the club would have been good for him long term, but the lad is young and the money beckoned. It would be ironic if Bristol did get relegated and we got promoted though.
Having said that I want the lad to succeed as has been mentioned if only so our club gets more money out of him.
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Post by thegrumpyporter on Feb 28, 2017 9:31:05 GMT
Yes all of what you say I think is correct, I want him to do well for the sake of OUFC there's a way to do things and a way not to he chose the wrong way and screwed up our preseason and start to the season IMO. His name I'm afraid leaves me with a bad taste.
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Post by ox4eva on Feb 28, 2017 11:43:47 GMT
Could not care less how COD is doing, he's an ex U's player and that's it for me! What I have been trying to find out is if we are still due any payments for him? Yes we are and we're also due a % of his sell on so it benefits us for him to do well then make a move to a bigger club.. I find this COD bashing pretty embarrassing really - I'm oxford through and through but some fans can't seem to see past the fact that this is a profession and a step up a league and what a 4x salary increase would be impossible to turn down. If roofe continues his development he could easily get himself a move upwards in the next couple of years meaning we'd get a big pay out.. I can't see why anyone wouldn't want the same to happen with Odowda If I was 'COD bashing' I would have said more, I said I could not care less about him as he is now plays for another team which was his choice! I was just interested in whether we will be due further payments, and as for the sell on % then that will be great if this happens.
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Post by brightonyellow on Mar 3, 2017 17:09:30 GMT
Short career; left for a much higher salary. Plus; surely any half decent football clubs have contingency plans in place for footballers leaving / losing form / getting injured at short notice?
I don't get the animosity against him. He's a local lad, trying to do the best for his career. Football wise he possibly made a mistake. For his whole life he's got an extra £100k+ in his bank account. It seems just a touch envious?
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Post by grenobleroad on Mar 3, 2017 17:38:19 GMT
Short career; left for a much higher salary. Plus; surely any half decent football clubs have contingency plans in place for footballers leaving / losing form / getting injured at short notice? I don't get the animosity against him. He's a local lad, trying to do the best for his career. Football wise he possibly made a mistake. For his whole life he's got an extra £100k+ in his bank account. It seems just a touch envious? That's why Kemar Roofe gets so much crap for leaving I guess?
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Post by saddletramp on Mar 3, 2017 18:17:19 GMT
Short career; left for a much higher salary. Plus; surely any half decent football clubs have contingency plans in place for footballers leaving / losing form / getting injured at short notice? I don't get the animosity against him. He's a local lad, trying to do the best for his career. Football wise he possibly made a mistake. For his whole life he's got an extra £100k+ in his bank account. It seems just a touch envious? That's why Kemar Roofe gets so much crap for leaving I guess? Sorry ?? I have never heard anyone slag off Kemar Roofe for leaving Oxford. Good luck to the lad.
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Post by MJB on Mar 3, 2017 18:30:20 GMT
That's why Kemar Roofe gets so much crap for leaving I guess? Sorry ?? I have never heard anyone slag off Kemar Roofe for leaving Oxford. Good luck to the lad. I think it was a rhetorical question.
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Post by ox18 on Mar 3, 2017 18:31:15 GMT
That's why Kemar Roofe gets so much crap for leaving I guess? Sorry ?? I have never heard anyone slag off Kemar Roofe for leaving Oxford. Good luck to the lad. Exactly, when Kemar left in the summer we were all aware that he would most likely move on. The transfer was straight forward and he moved on with a big financial gain for the club. Think it was the Rochdale game where he came back and made an appearance, getting a tremendous reception from the fans. Seemed more like one of our own !
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Post by grenobleroad on Mar 3, 2017 18:34:50 GMT
That's why Kemar Roofe gets so much crap for leaving I guess? Sorry ?? I have never heard anyone slag off Kemar Roofe for leaving Oxford. Good luck to the lad. What mjb said.
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Post by saddletramp on Mar 3, 2017 18:43:16 GMT
Sorry ?? I have never heard anyone slag off Kemar Roofe for leaving Oxford. Good luck to the lad. What mjb said. Which he posted after my post. So your point is ?
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Post by Paul Cannell on Mar 3, 2017 18:46:39 GMT
He thinks it was a rhetorical question. I'd guess.
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Post by grenobleroad on Mar 3, 2017 18:53:58 GMT
Which he posted after my post. So your point is ? Do you want an answer or is that a rhetorical question?
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Post by jammydodger on Mar 3, 2017 19:15:21 GMT
Which he posted after my post. So your point is ? Do you want an answer or is that a rhetorical question? Is that a rhetorical question?
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Post by kidintheriot on Mar 3, 2017 20:07:37 GMT
Do you want an answer or is that a rhetorical question? Is that a rhetorical question? What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
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Post by bristolred on Mar 3, 2017 20:08:44 GMT
O'Dowda had a decent game away at toon but generally has been deemed a bit of a fraud from some supporters despite still being young.
He wont develop well with our coaching and i fear a relegation at his age may hinder his career.
I must say you banked some good money from that transfer.
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Post by foley on Mar 3, 2017 20:58:39 GMT
O'Dowda had a decent game away at toon but generally has been deemed a bit of a fraud from some supporters despite still being young. He wont develop well with our coaching and i fear a relegation at his age may hinder his career. I must say you banked some good money from that transfer. We banked good money cos he is a very good talent. No disrespect but in my view he made a bad mistake going to Bristol City. Had he found the right club for him he could have done very well....
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Post by yellowg on Mar 3, 2017 22:30:48 GMT
I think COD would have developed quicker had he stayed. He was not ready for the second Tier in the summer. There was plenty that Johnson, Hall and Maguire could have taught him first....😂
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Post by Paul Cannell on Mar 4, 2017 8:50:14 GMT
Is that a rhetorical question? What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question? An unanswerable funundrum?
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