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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 2, 2015 18:30:36 GMT
Some quality tweets. #Blatter: "I'm 79. It just struck me that I ought to be spending more time with my lawyers. Did I say lawyers? I meant grandchildren." Finally balance has been returned to the football vine.co/v/ehtx6ULOqxv
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Post by andystroud on Jun 2, 2015 18:45:37 GMT
As President he would have to attend the Womens WC,which just happens to be in the USA,dont think he fancied his chances with the Feds. And the women wouldn't be wearing tight shorts either
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Post by m on Jun 3, 2015 7:31:18 GMT
I'd quite like someone like figo, who has the game at heart. Wonder if they could tempt someone like jack Midson We should never have let Luis Figo go.
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Post by Denissmithswig on Jun 3, 2015 9:09:49 GMT
David Ginola is going to have another go at getting elected.
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Post by MJB on Jun 3, 2015 9:17:14 GMT
David Ginola is going to have another go at getting elected. Just the person we need to root out corruption running to tens, if not hundreds of millions of pounds, potentially involving leaders of states, complex geo-political issues and an incredibly complicated organisation which requires reform from top to bottom. Presumably Paul Merson is busy.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jun 3, 2015 9:23:46 GMT
Same with Platini? Voted for Qatar 2022. Qataris then buy PSG, France's top club. And Platini's son is hired as CEO of a Qatari sports apparel co.
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Post by foley on Jun 3, 2015 9:24:56 GMT
I have a horrible feeling that it ain't over yet despite Blatter going.
It is all well and good Greg Dyke saying that it is a great day for world football, but many confederations/ nations will not want anything dug up and could well still vote in Blatter's successor ............
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 11:05:34 GMT
I have a horrible feeling that it ain't over yet despite Blatter going.
It is all well and good Greg Dyke saying that it is a great day for world football, but many confederations/ nations will not want anything dug up and could well still vote in Blatter's successor ............ One is reminded of how the U.S. authorities discovered money laundering on a massive scale... by the HSBC bank. Number of prosecutions? None. Which is odd since they were laundering hundreds of millions of dollars for Mexican drug cartels. This toppling of Sepp Blatter has nothing to do with 'cleaning up' FIFA. This is a corporate power grab. The apparatus of state power used on behalf of corporate power. I wonder what the real story is? Its obviously not about corruption. Whenever the corporate media whistles up an attack on someone you can be sure that there is more to it than meets the eye.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jun 3, 2015 11:15:17 GMT
Whenever the corporate media whistles up an attack on someone you can be sure that there is more to it than meets the eye. Or sometimes less, to be pedantic. Anyway, FIFA's been saved for the people all over the world (everybody) Join hands (join) Start a love train, love train People all over the world (all the world, now) Join hands (love ride) Start a love train (love ride), love train The next stop that we make will be soon Tell all the folks in Qatar, and Russia, too Don't you know that it's time to get on board And let this train keep on riding, riding on through Well, well Rejoice!
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Post by Colin B on Jun 3, 2015 12:34:45 GMT
Whenever the corporate media whistles up an attack on someone you can be sure that there is more to it than meets the eye. Or sometimes less, to be pedantic. Anyway, FIFA's been saved for the people all over the world (everybody) Join hands (join) Start a love train, love train People all over the world (all the world, now) Join hands (love ride) Start a love train (love ride), love train The next stop that we make will be soon Tell all the folks in Qatar, and China, too Don't you know that it's time to get on board And let this train keep on riding, riding on through Well, well Rejoice! Gamble and Huff at their finest, and admirably performed by the O'Jays. Takes me back to my youth, when men wore flares, medallions, and Brut and the women were very afraid........................
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jun 3, 2015 12:41:55 GMT
Oh blinking flip! And you quoted it.
Stack-heel boots, iirc, also.
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Post by Marked Ox on Jun 3, 2015 13:11:34 GMT
Please not an American! We will be having the game broken into quarters, video replays and any possible excuse for a commercial break. Supposedly they are quite the political mover and shaker. Big ambitions. I really don't want Gill or Dyke to go anywhere near it. Time to take a back seat. The issue is, who else is going to be arrested/implicated? No chance somebody from England will get the role (unless David Beckham stands*) due to the English FA. Blatter's old support base would block any English candidate*. *I am not suggesting he would stand or could/couldn't do the job. But in football terms with links to the FA, IMO Beckham is the only Englishman that those in Africa/Asia would countenance.
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Post by Marked Ox on Jun 3, 2015 13:15:23 GMT
As President he would have to attend the Womens WC,which just happens to be in the USA,dont think he fancied his chances with the Feds. And the women wouldn't be wearing tight shorts either The women's WC is in Canada not USA from what I've read. The players threatened to boycott it as it will be played mainly or wholly on artificial pitches.
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Post by Marked Ox on Jun 3, 2015 13:19:55 GMT
I have a horrible feeling that it ain't over yet despite Blatter going.
It is all well and good Greg Dyke saying that it is a great day for world football, but many confederations/ nations will not want anything dug up and could well still vote in Blatter's successor ............ Agreed. A lot will depend on whether the changes suggested by the laughable ethics committee are implemented such fixed president terms and limited time in office (like US president). Hopefully, the sponsors employ pressure to ensure this happens.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jun 3, 2015 13:51:25 GMT
Blatter's old support base would block any English candidate*. In the interests of fair play I think it should be mentioned that there's a danger of 'old support base' becoming a euphemism for 'corrupt people': a thing of which I am not accusing markedox. It's not just that, at least not necessarily. One thing Blatter definitely presided over was a massive expansion of investment in football in Africa and Asia with huge increases in facilities and opportunities, a second was the destruction of the old boy's club approach that was prevalent when he joined, and a third was corruption. I am not saying that achievements 1 & 2 make 3 OK, by the way. On the other hand I suspect that in any international sporting organisation there is a fair bit of trouser-lining going on, look at the IOC, boxing or Mr Ecclestone's scam; guardians of the sport my arse.
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Post by Marked Ox on Jun 3, 2015 15:24:31 GMT
Blatter's old support base would block any English candidate*. In the interests of fair play I think it should be mentioned that there's a danger of 'old support base' becoming a euphemism for 'corrupt people': a thing of which I am not accusing markedox. It's not just that, at least not necessarily. One thing Blatter definitely presided over was a massive expansion of investment in football in Africa and Asia with huge increases in facilities and opportunities, a second was the destruction of the old boy's club approach that was prevalent when he joined, and a third was corruption. I am not saying that achievements 1 & 2 make 3 OK, by the way. On the other hand I suspect that in any international sporting organisation there is a fair bit of trouser-lining going on, look at the IOC, boxing or Mr Ecclestone's scam; guardians of the sport my arse. I don't disagree. That said, even if various heads role in Africa/Asia(Oceania as well) due to corruption, there replacements will still hold similar views. They fear that Europe will dominate and cut investment in football in those areas and stop World Cups going to the non traditional countries. Any candidate I suspect will have to operate a middle way between the views. Any English candidate whatever their stated views, would be viewed with suspicion by these countries. One obvious way to elevate some of the existing Blatter support bloc's concerns is to ensure that the World Cup is rotated around the various continents. The other would be to set up a permanent development fund (set % of FIFA income) which countries can apply against set criteria for football projects. The criteria can be set so major football powers can't access it.
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Post by saddletramp on Jun 3, 2015 20:19:07 GMT
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jun 3, 2015 20:28:11 GMT
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Post by Gary Baldi on Jun 3, 2015 23:12:26 GMT
Supposedly they are quite the political mover and shaker. Big ambitions. I really don't want Gill or Dyke to go anywhere near it. Time to take a back seat. The issue is, who else is going to be arrested/implicated? No chance somebody from England will get the role (unless David Beckham stands*) due to the English FA. Blatter's old support base would block any English candidate*. *I am not suggesting he would stand or could/couldn't do the job. But in football terms with links to the FA, IMO Beckham is the only Englishman that those in Africa/Asia would countenance. I agree. I don't want them to even run. Someone somewhere will always moan about colonialists, but it gets to a point where it is really just the racist card being pulled again. Let democracy take place and work hard to improve it. The FA has rather peed off some people around the world with our attitude to FIFA, so now is the time to rebuild some bridges in the background and earn peoples trust again FIFAs issue is it is so corrupt, it's really hard to trust anyone that has been there long term. It needs fresh people with fresh ideas. We need to remember, for some Blatter is like their Dad, and we nasty Europeans have taken him away. Even though he's been very naughty and taking them for stupid, they still love him.
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Post by foley on Jun 4, 2015 11:00:57 GMT
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Post by amarillo on Jun 4, 2015 13:02:27 GMT
Totally agree about taking a back seat. We would be accused of bias and lets be honest, we do have a history of it with our hyping up of our league as the best in the world among other things.
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Post by Gary Baldi on Jun 4, 2015 13:16:02 GMT
John Whittingdale's comments today are a prime example of the British shutting our mouths and working in the background. While of course we can host a tournament, it comes across as the height of arrogance. Again. If the time comes, put ourselves forward in the right manner, but in the meantime, keep it quiet and be diplomatic.
At least Jack Warner is now realising what is coming and the seriousness of the allegations. I don't trust him to tell me the time of day, let alone the truth, but this could get interesting.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Jun 4, 2015 14:37:55 GMT
John Whittingdale's comments today are a prime example of the British shutting our mouths and working in the background. While of course we can host a tournament, it comes across as the height of arrogance. I completely agree. It was an ill timed and badly thought out thing to say. It reinforces the impression that, rather than rooting out corruption, the reason the Brits and (especially) the Americans are gunning for FIFA is that they are miffed about not being awarded a World Cup.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jun 4, 2015 15:15:38 GMT
I think I saw something a while ago on the Grauniad site about England offering to host 2020, but the article has gone and the space where it was is blank.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 15:20:21 GMT
Can any of the outraged commenters on this thread enlighten me?
What has FIFA done that isn't standard practice in the U.S. & U.K. 'democracies'?
and why is it suddenly important?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 15:23:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 15:25:08 GMT
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jun 4, 2015 15:59:01 GMT
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Post by amarillo on Jun 4, 2015 16:02:29 GMT
Can any of the outraged commenters on this thread enlighten me? What has FIFA done that isn't standard practice in the U.S. & U.K. 'democracies'? and why is it suddenly important? Fair point FIFA is basically just an exaggerated example of how the world operates
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jun 4, 2015 16:09:46 GMT
Can any of the outraged commenters on this thread enlighten me? What has FIFA done that isn't standard practice in the U.S. & U.K. 'democracies'? and why is it suddenly important?I'll have a go at the bold bit. Easy peasy, it's a spectacular. Takes our mind off all the trouble and strife in the world: TTIP, immigration, the fact that global growth's at it's lowest since 1930's, the forthcoming new wars vs Russia and Islam. An event staged for the entertainment of the public and for it's faux-edification - in this case to demonstrate that we're like moral and righteous and that we have to crack down on bad people- specially Roos and Ragheads and the fifth column that colludes with them in their dastardly enterprises.
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