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Post by SteMerritt on Nov 11, 2014 10:30:06 GMT
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Nov 11, 2014 11:42:31 GMT
In the last 10 years they've had 11 managers, so I hope he isn't planning on buying a villa, learning Spanish and moving his family over there!
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Post by sihath on Nov 11, 2014 12:13:39 GMT
In the last 10 years they've had 11 managers, so I hope he isn't planning on buying a villa, learning Spanish and moving his family over there! I wonder if there's a Real Sociedad fans on some random Spanish 4th Division team's website claiming that he's a wonderful appointment. That they're glad they didn't get Mourinho and that they'll win the quadruple?
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Post by baldy on Nov 11, 2014 12:53:55 GMT
In the last 10 years they've had 11 managers, so I hope he isn't planning on buying a villa, learning Spanish and moving his family over there! I wonder if there's a Real Sociedad fans on some random Spanish 4th Division team's website claiming that he's a wonderful appointment. That they're glad they didn't get Mourinho and that they'll win the quadruple? Oh I guess so. Give it a year or so Sociedad will be in a right pickle, Moyes will get the boot and and some pedantic, annoying little Spaniard will come on that said forum proclaiming that he left them in a healthy state and that their new manager should win his first eleven games after spending five minutes pre season clearing up a whole years worth of mess created by Moyes.
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Post by m on Nov 11, 2014 13:01:38 GMT
In the interests of balance I have to say that you've both made me snigger there.
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Post by amershamdave on Nov 11, 2014 13:04:13 GMT
Not being horrible, but that's Sociedad f*cked then.
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Post by Si Bradbury on Nov 11, 2014 13:05:48 GMT
It seems a very sensible and shrewd move, by both Sociedad and Moyes. Not massive pressure to deliver - much like Everton in most of his seasons there and a reliance on youth and academy products. Whilst it could last a short time, it wouldn't surprise me to see Moyes rebuild his stock and then make his next big move.
The key will be communication. He needs an assistant fluent in Spanish.
One question which always baffles me with Basque-based clubs, will Sociedad or do they, have to only play basque players like their rivals Bilbao get reported as doing? That would make it difficult.
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Post by SteMerritt on Nov 11, 2014 13:10:01 GMT
One question which always baffles me with Basque-based clubs, will Sociedad or do they, have to only play basque players like their rivals Bilbao get reported as doing? That would make it difficult. Unless it has changed recently I would guess not, as they once counted the legend that is John Aldridge as one of their playing staff.
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Post by oufcyellows on Nov 11, 2014 13:30:31 GMT
Real Sociedad set to make a record breaking bid for Marouane Fellaini in the January transfer window...
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Post by amershamdave on Nov 11, 2014 13:36:29 GMT
They are welcome to take fellatio out of Man U.
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Post by sihath on Nov 11, 2014 13:42:19 GMT
I wonder if there's a Real Sociedad fans on some random Spanish 4th Division team's website claiming that he's a wonderful appointment. That they're glad they didn't get Mourinho and that they'll win the quadruple? Oh I guess so. Give it a year or so Sociedad will be in a right pickle, Moyes will get the boot and and some pedantic, annoying little Spaniard will come on that said forum proclaiming that he left them in a healthy state and that their new manager should win his first eleven games after spending five minutes pre season clearing up a whole years worth of mess created by Moyes. Olé! Are Socieadad the most successful team in Spain? This could run and run...
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Post by Si Bradbury on Nov 11, 2014 13:49:22 GMT
Real Sociedad set to make a record breaking bid for Marouane Fellaini in the January transfer window... Reading the BBC article, Moyes won't have any chance of spending any significant money. Loans, Free's and Youth Products - is Ian their Chairman? (JOKE if anyone is offended!!). You have to applaud that philosophy. But Fellaini on loan surely will have some mileage? Cleverley on loan? It could be beneficial to England too if he takes some english boys out there to play in a quality technical league.
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Post by foley on Nov 11, 2014 13:49:43 GMT
It seems a very sensible and shrewd move, by both Sociedad and Moyes. Not massive pressure to deliver - much like Everton in most of his seasons there and a reliance on youth and academy products. Whilst it could last a short time, it wouldn't surprise me to see Moyes rebuild his stock and then make his next big move. The key will be communication. He needs an assistant fluent in Spanish. One question which always baffles me with Basque-based clubs, will Sociedad or do they, have to only play basque players like their rivals Bilbao get reported as doing? That would make it difficult. Yes agree entirely that the people round him will be critical especially if he doesn't speak Spanish (I guess he doesn't). Good luck to the guy. They are doing poorly but beat Real Madrid earlier this season and should have some decent players. So if Moyes can get them organised (that won't be easy), and they climb the table then his stock will have risen. If he has a good year and a half then the trick will be when to get out as 10 managers in 11 years seems to imply that a run of poor results will finish him there ...
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Post by Si Bradbury on Nov 11, 2014 13:50:50 GMT
They beat Athletico at the weekend 2-1.
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Post by mcf86 on Nov 11, 2014 13:59:42 GMT
Good luck to Moyes, and I hope he proves a few people wrong.
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Post by baldy on Nov 11, 2014 15:48:40 GMT
Good luck to Moyes, and I hope he proves a few people wrong. No sincerity at all in that. If you genuinely wished him well you'd have posted the same when he took over at Man Utd.
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Post by Boogaloo on Nov 11, 2014 16:32:12 GMT
Good luck to Moyes, and I hope he proves a few people wrong. No sincerity at all in that. If you genuinely wished him well you'd have posted the same when he took over at Man Utd. I don't think anyone wanted Moyes to fail - they just wanted Man Utd to fail regardless of who was in charge. I wish Moyes all the best. Real Sociedad are about on a par with Everton, so I reckon he'll do quite well there. The Man Utd job was just a bit too big for him.
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Post by bicesteryellow on Nov 11, 2014 17:12:58 GMT
Good luck to Moyes, and I hope he proves a few people wrong. No sincerity at all in that. If you genuinely wished him well you'd have posted the same when he took over at Man Utd. Are the grapes particularly sour in your part of the world tonight?
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Post by mcf86 on Nov 11, 2014 18:24:04 GMT
Good luck to Moyes, and I hope he proves a few people wrong. No sincerity at all in that. If you genuinely wished him well you'd have posted the same when he took over at Man Utd. o Not sure how you come to that conclusion, I don't wish every new football manager 'Good luck' - I only awarded that honour to Mr Moyes as I felt he has been slagged off by some, unfairly In my eyes. His short reign at OT obviously wasn't great, but he hardly had time to right the situation. You only have to look at Newcastle Utd's example, many of their fans were way way OTT in calling for the manager's head- It's all gone quiet over there now.
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Post by grumpygit on Nov 11, 2014 19:23:42 GMT
Good luck Moyes. I hope you aren't shafted again.
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Post by scotchegg on Nov 11, 2014 19:50:03 GMT
As much as I think Moyes was out of his depth he was also shafted by the board and senior players. The likes of van Persie and Ferdinand didn't play for him and created a split in the camp. He was let down by those doing the transfer deals and fired the moment things got tough.
Moyes deserves a chance to prove doubters wrong and will likely do well if given time to find his feet.
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Post by saddletramp on Nov 11, 2014 20:31:11 GMT
The thing about Moyes was,he was to scared to slag off the team that he was left,if he had it would have been seen as a slur on SAF. If he had come out and said "it will take me 3 seasons to get things right" he would have been crucified. LVG says exactly that at the weekend,not a murmur. It's not good enough," Van Gaal, 63, said. "But on the other hand, we are in a process, as I have said from the beginning"The process shall take more than one year; it shall take three years." Weird that he says "as I have said from the beginning",i thought at the beginning he said "judge me after 3 months",not 3 years?
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Post by baldy on Nov 11, 2014 20:33:22 GMT
Hahahahaha.......shafted ? By who ?
How do you know RVP or Ferdinand didn't play for him ? Says who ? I'll tell you the one player, maybe a second too for half a season, who didn't play for him and that's Fellaini and Mata - two of his signings.
The fact he couldn't get two of his own going says a bloody lot more about David Moyes than it does 'been there and done it' players like RVP and Ferdinand.
Shafted by the Glazers ? No chance. He took over a title winning squad, sold nobody, spent £66m on Fellaini, Mata and that Uruguayan right back and finished 7th. Totally and utterly deserving of the sack.
You seem to spout more and more claptrap by the day.
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Post by bacon on Nov 11, 2014 20:56:25 GMT
Hahahahaha.......shafted ? By who ? How do you know RVP or Ferdinand didn't play for him ? Says who ? I'll tell you the one player, maybe a second too for half a season, who didn't play for him and that's Fellaini and Mata - two of his signings. The fact he couldn't get two of his own going says a bloody lot more about David Moyes than it does 'been there and done it' players like RVP and Ferdinand. Shafted by the Glazers ? No chance. He took over a title winning squad, sold nobody, spent £66m on Fellaini, Mata and that Uruguayan right back and finished 7th. Totally and utterly deserving of the sack. You seem to spout more and more claptrap by the day. What about your shite about Moyes being the best thing since sliced bread! Changed your tune a bit...
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Post by baldy on Nov 12, 2014 7:50:26 GMT
Hahahahaha.......shafted ? By who ? How do you know RVP or Ferdinand didn't play for him ? Says who ? I'll tell you the one player, maybe a second too for half a season, who didn't play for him and that's Fellaini and Mata - two of his signings. The fact he couldn't get two of his own going says a bloody lot more about David Moyes than it does 'been there and done it' players like RVP and Ferdinand. Shafted by the Glazers ? No chance. He took over a title winning squad, sold nobody, spent £66m on Fellaini, Mata and that Uruguayan right back and finished 7th. Totally and utterly deserving of the sack. You seem to spout more and more claptrap by the day. What about your shite about Moyes being the best thing since sliced bread! Changed your tune a bit... Never ever said that. I thought he perhaps deserved a chance and backed him to succeed but he messed up badly, giving the new manager a virtually impossible first season.
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Post by foley on Nov 12, 2014 9:47:33 GMT
Hahahahaha.......shafted ? By who ? How do you know RVP or Ferdinand didn't play for him ? Says who ? I'll tell you the one player, maybe a second too for half a season, who didn't play for him and that's Fellaini and Mata - two of his signings. The fact he couldn't get two of his own going says a bloody lot more about David Moyes than it does 'been there and done it' players like RVP and Ferdinand. Shafted by the Glazers ? No chance. He took over a title winning squad, sold nobody, spent £66m on Fellaini, Mata and that Uruguayan right back and finished 7th. Totally and utterly deserving of the sack. You seem to spout more and more claptrap by the day. I think that the general view at the time was that Moyes had been shafted ( before the season started). Man U were according to the press in for a number of players that Moyes wanted. He got Fellaini at the last minute. Even one of the Nevilles suggested that the new CEO was out of his depth. Van Gaal has proved what a difficult job that Moyes had. Man U won the title due to Ferguson's brilliance and him getting every bit out of an aging average group of players (who happened to have Van Persie on fire and as fit as he has ever been) Anybody looking at this without rose coloured spectacles will surely think that Moyes had a particularly difficult job (and this has been proven by a novice caretaker manager and a World class manager). Therefore many will wish Moyes the best of luck in his new role. I hope that he reinvents himself and comes back - Steve McLaren has done reasonably well and there is no reason why Moyes can't prove himself again.
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Post by Si Bradbury on Nov 12, 2014 10:34:32 GMT
He took over a title winning squad, sold nobody, spent £66m on Fellaini, Mata and that Uruguayan right back and finished 7th. Totally and utterly deserving of the sack. He took over an ageing squad which needed huge surgery. One thing about Sir Alex, he has never been stupid and his decision to quit leading that over the hill squad was another clever move. Moyes signed a long-term contract and had lots to address, rebuild and he wasn't afforded the time. However, LVG is allowed the time despite a similar opening tenure to Moyes.
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Post by baldy on Nov 12, 2014 11:54:52 GMT
He took over a title winning squad, sold nobody, spent £66m on Fellaini, Mata and that Uruguayan right back and finished 7th. Totally and utterly deserving of the sack. He took over an ageing squad which needed huge surgery. One thing about Sir Alex, he has never been stupid and his decision to quit leading that over the hill squad was another clever move. Moyes signed a long-term contract and had lots to address, rebuild and he wasn't afforded the time. However, LVG is allowed the time despite a similar opening tenure to Moyes. Explain why Moyes could not get his two signings, Fellini and Mata, functioning properly ? Surely he should have been capable of that as a bear minimum ? He was scared to death to use Fellaini after his initial first few games. Why ? Because, I believe, he couldn't handle the pressure from the fans who were disgruntled at his initial impact. A strong manager, as LVG is proving, will use Fellaini and get him going. As for Mata, where the hell was Moyes playing him ? Left, right, central, in the hole, all over the place. Van Gaal has played him in his correct position. He still hasn't hit the heady heights he did at Chelsea but at least he is a square peg in a square hole now. Manchester United was too big for David Moyes. Simple as that.
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Post by bacon on Nov 12, 2014 16:42:20 GMT
He took over an ageing squad which needed huge surgery. One thing about Sir Alex, he has never been stupid and his decision to quit leading that over the hill squad was another clever move. Moyes signed a long-term contract and had lots to address, rebuild and he wasn't afforded the time. However, LVG is allowed the time despite a similar opening tenure to Moyes. Explain why Moyes could not get his two signings, Fellini and Mata, functioning properly ? Surely he should have been capable of that as a bear minimum ? He was scared to death to use Fellaini after his initial first few games. Why ? Because, I believe, he couldn't handle the pressure from the fans who were disgruntled at his initial impact. A strong manager, as LVG is proving, will use Fellaini and get him going. As for Mata, where the hell was Moyes playing him ? Left, right, central, in the hole, all over the place. Van Gaal has played him in his correct position. He still hasn't hit the heady heights he did at Chelsea but at least he is a square peg in a square hole now. Manchester United was too big for David Moyes. Simple as that. Did you honestly believe he would succeed? do you accept you were unbelievably wrong about Moyes?
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Post by baldy on Nov 12, 2014 17:37:41 GMT
Explain why Moyes could not get his two signings, Fellini and Mata, functioning properly ? Surely he should have been capable of that as a bear minimum ? He was scared to death to use Fellaini after his initial first few games. Why ? Because, I believe, he couldn't handle the pressure from the fans who were disgruntled at his initial impact. A strong manager, as LVG is proving, will use Fellaini and get him going. As for Mata, where the hell was Moyes playing him ? Left, right, central, in the hole, all over the place. Van Gaal has played him in his correct position. He still hasn't hit the heady heights he did at Chelsea but at least he is a square peg in a square hole now. Manchester United was too big for David Moyes. Simple as that. Did you honestly believe he would succeed? do you accept you were unbelievably wrong about Moyes?[/quote] Yes I did. I'm a born optimist, a glass half full man. I still think Oxford will go up this season. I'd say the same if we brought Patto back as manager. That is just the way I am. I'm coming around to the view that perhaps this season wont be Man U's for the title but part of me still believes. I'm one of those who still think Man U can win a game if they're 1-0 down but have got three minutes of injury time to play. It's a huge strength of mine that I'm full of positivity. I'll probably die at 60 but in my head I'm going well past the century. Rightly or wrongly I never think any other way.
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