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Post by baldy on Oct 24, 2014 7:33:44 GMT
Could be about to sign for Manchester United. He's training with them but I doubt they are aiding his rehabilitation from injury for the benefit of any other club.
Could it be DDG to Real - as has been rumoured - as part of a stunning package to coax Ronaldo back ?
Real already have Hernandez on loan and are rumoured to be on the trail of Januzaij.
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Post by bicesteryellow on Oct 24, 2014 7:42:25 GMT
That wouldn't help Manchester United much
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Post by SteMerritt on Oct 24, 2014 7:52:03 GMT
2+2=5
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Post by baldy on Oct 24, 2014 7:56:14 GMT
That wouldn't help Manchester United much What having Ronaldo back ? If he was coming here to battle it out with DDG - rather than replacing DDG - how the hell can that not be seen as healthy for the club ? I don't think Lindegaard is giving LVG much to think about when he's selecting his side, in fact I'd say DDG is virtually guaranteed his place no matter how he performs and that cannot be right. Man U have about seven or eight top class players - Di Maria, Falcao, RVP, Mata, Rooney, Januzaij, Valencia - battling it out at the top of the pitch but only one really recognised keeper challenging De Gea - and even that challenge appears a bit limp. In my opinion it would really keep De Gea on his toes knowing that he had someone like Valdes breathing down his neck. It could only be good. There are no negatives.
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Post by bicesteryellow on Oct 24, 2014 8:02:23 GMT
That wouldn't help Manchester United much What having Ronaldo back ? If he was coming here to battle it out with DDG - rather than replacing DDG - how the hell can that not be seen as healthy for the club ? I don't think Lindegaard is giving LVG much to think about when he's selecting his side, in fact I'd say DDG is virtually guaranteed his place no matter how he performs and that cannot be right. Man U have about seven or eight top class players - Di Maria, Falcao, RVP, Mata, Rooney, Januzaij, Valencia - battling it out at the top of the pitch but only one really recognised keeper challenging De Gea - and even that challenge appears a bit limp. In my opinion it would really keep De Gea on his toes knowing that he had someone like Valdes breathing down his neck. It could only be good. There are no negatives. Losing de Gea and Januzaj for the sake of Ronaldo and Valdes (and a lot of money) wouldn't pay off in the long term. Neither are getting any younger now and both may have seen their best days go by already
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Post by baldy on Oct 24, 2014 8:18:39 GMT
What having Ronaldo back ? If he was coming here to battle it out with DDG - rather than replacing DDG - how the hell can that not be seen as healthy for the club ? I don't think Lindegaard is giving LVG much to think about when he's selecting his side, in fact I'd say DDG is virtually guaranteed his place no matter how he performs and that cannot be right. Man U have about seven or eight top class players - Di Maria, Falcao, RVP, Mata, Rooney, Januzaij, Valencia - battling it out at the top of the pitch but only one really recognised keeper challenging De Gea - and even that challenge appears a bit limp. In my opinion it would really keep De Gea on his toes knowing that he had someone like Valdes breathing down his neck. It could only be good. There are no negatives. Losing de Gea and Januzaj for the sake of Ronaldo and Valdes (and a lot of money) wouldn't pay off in the long term. Neither are getting any younger now and both may have seen their best days go by already Have you see Ronaldo lately !!!!! What is it ? Two goals a game over the last ten games. 20 for the season !!! He's in the best form of his entire career. He was reasonably subdued the other night but still made an almighty contribution. I cannot believe that you are saying his best days have gone ! Wow ! That's some statement given how he is playing. Best player in the world bar none. Valdes is 32. Keepers are peaking nowadays in their early 30's.
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Post by andystroud on Oct 24, 2014 8:44:02 GMT
It wouldn't help Ronaldo's push to be the CL record goal scorer would it!?
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Post by baldy on Oct 24, 2014 9:00:27 GMT
It wouldn't help Ronaldo's push to be the CL record goal scorer would it!? Why ?
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Post by amarillo on Oct 24, 2014 9:20:53 GMT
I'd have thought the billion euro (or whatever it was) release clause announced recently was a very clear statement that Ronaldo isn't going anywhere.
Much more chance of Man U getting Bale, which would be a better signing given his age.
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Post by foley on Oct 24, 2014 9:25:57 GMT
Ronaldo would be a fantastic signing as he is in the top 2 in the World. But I just can't see it happening. With all due respect why leave Real Madrid (who could well win the CL this season) for Man U?
Valdes would be a good replacement if DDG were to leave. I suspect that it is no more than a decent keeper becomes available and Man U are having a look at him.
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Post by scotchegg on Oct 24, 2014 9:27:43 GMT
So an aging goalkeeper is training with the squad to help his recovery from injury and from that you've determined that several transfers will take place, including Ronaldo?
No wonder people get p*ssed off with these threads!!!!
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Post by andystroud on Oct 24, 2014 9:30:16 GMT
It wouldn't help Ronaldo's push to be the CL record goal scorer would it!? Why ? I'm sure you are being deliberately obtuse, however.... The last time I checked Manchester United weren't in the CL; a prerequisite if you want to score goals that count in that competition.
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Post by baldy on Oct 24, 2014 9:39:36 GMT
I'm sure you are being deliberately obtuse, however.... The last time I checked Manchester United weren't in the CL; a prerequisite if you want to score goals that count in that competition. Not this year, no, but he's got stacks of time on his side.
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Post by bicesteryellow on Oct 24, 2014 9:50:22 GMT
Losing de Gea and Januzaj for the sake of Ronaldo and Valdes (and a lot of money) wouldn't pay off in the long term. Neither are getting any younger now and both may have seen their best days go by already Have you see Ronaldo lately !!!!! What is it ? Two goals a game over the last ten games. 20 for the season !!! He's in the best form of his entire career. He was reasonably subdued the other night but still made an almighty contribution. I cannot believe that you are saying his best days have gone ! Wow ! That's some statement given how he is playing. Best player in the world bar none. Valdes is 32. Keepers are peaking nowadays in their early 30's. Ronaldo will be 30 in February. That pace of his won't be around forever, and he's beginning to pick up hamstring injuries at times too. When was the last time Valdes made a fantastic save? Not this season, as he hasn't played a game since last season.
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Post by baldy on Oct 24, 2014 9:50:52 GMT
So an aging goalkeeper is training with the squad to help his recovery from injury and from that you've determined that several transfers will take place, including Ronaldo? No wonder people get p*ssed off with these threads!!!! No, I have looked a bit beyond just seeing it as that. There have been rumours - yes, just rumours but rumours nevertheless - that Real want DDG and Man U want Ronaldo (ignore the fact that Ronaldo has said that his heart is in Manchester). DDG is from Madrid and Madrid want a keeper. Ronaldo has declared his heart is in Manchester and has never closed the door on a return. Valdes unlikely to want to be back up somewhere. Of course I'm not saying 'Oh yeah this will happen' but it could easily trigger a chain of events. All I am saying is that if Valdes does join then where does that leave DDG ? Madrid are supposedly interested and with his value soaring to something around the £35m mark could you really see Man U negotiating a transfer of that magnitude without mentioning Ronaldo ? It probably wont happen but it's not so far fetched.
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Post by amarillo on Oct 24, 2014 9:56:32 GMT
with his value soaring to something around the £35m mark could you really see Man U negotiating a transfer of that magnitude without mentioning Ronaldo ? yes RM have many players with a value around that level, which could be thrown into a deal. Ronaldo given his current form is not going to be for sale at any price It is extremely far fetched IMO
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Post by bicesteryellow on Oct 24, 2014 9:58:05 GMT
with his value soaring to something around the £35m mark could you really see Man U negotiating a transfer of that magnitude without mentioning Ronaldo ? yes RM have many players with a value around that level, which could be thrown into a deal. Ronaldo given his current form is not going to be for sale at any price It is extremely far fetched IMO I read somewhere it was $1,000,000,000. Good luck negotiating that down to £35,000,000
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Post by baldy on Oct 24, 2014 10:03:02 GMT
yes RM have many players with a value around that level, which could be thrown into a deal. Ronaldo given his current form is not going to be for sale at any price It is extremely far fetched IMO I read somewhere it was $1,000,000,000. Good luck negotiating that down to £35,000,000 £35m wont get him, of course not. What I am saying is that they could use a player with a value of £35m as part of the deal. Never mind the fact that Real are after a top class keeper and one who comes from the City and is among the best in the world may be becoming available. I don't think there is any chance that Man U would indulge in a transfer with Real without throwing the name of Ronaldo in to the negotiations.
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Post by amarillo on Oct 24, 2014 10:14:23 GMT
They might throw the name in
But they will be laughed at
The only way it could happen is if Ronaldo wants to and given the way he's playing, the way RM are playing and the way Man U are struggling.....its unlikely!
I'm sure he's being genuine when he speaks of his affection for Manchester, but actually moving back there is really hard to imagine. He's got nothing to gain, unless he really misses the Manchester climate. I think if he ever does move, which will be when his form dips - it will be a new challenge maybe PSG or back to Portugal.
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Post by scotchegg on Oct 24, 2014 10:25:18 GMT
So an aging goalkeeper is training with the squad to help his recovery from injury and from that you've determined that several transfers will take place, including Ronaldo? No wonder people get p*ssed off with these threads!!!! No, I have looked a bit beyond just seeing it as that. There have been rumours - yes, just rumours but rumours nevertheless - that Real want DDG and Man U want Ronaldo (ignore the fact that Ronaldo has said that his heart is in Manchester). DDG is from Madrid and Madrid want a keeper. Ronaldo has declared his heart is in Manchester and has never closed the door on a return. Valdes unlikely to want to be back up somewhere. Of course I'm not saying 'Oh yeah this will happen' but it could easily trigger a chain of events. All I am saying is that if Valdes does join then where does that leave DDG ? Madrid are supposedly interested and with his value soaring to something around the £35m mark could you really see Man U negotiating a transfer of that magnitude without mentioning Ronaldo ? It probably wont happen but it's not so far fetched. By taking a massive leap from one minor story to this scenario is what let's you down every time and leaves this sectioned filled with rubbish. If you stuck to the first point about Valdes training it could have encouraged decent debate. Would he handle the PL? Does he make too many mistakes to be a top class keeper? Would he be happy as back up? Are Man Utd planning to challenge on 4 fronts next season? Could de Gea be off in the summer? But by throwing in the Ronaldo scenario it is inevitable that this will spiral downwards into the usual rubbish. You will say that his heart is in Manchester and others will point out that Real will never sell him at a price anyone can afford. Both reasonable views - but it won't stop there. It won't be long before some are saying that Ronaldo is shit and you will mention the amount Arsenal paid for Ozil etc. It is too predictable and boring.
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Post by stevegilbert on Oct 24, 2014 11:46:22 GMT
From what I hear then the Ronaldo deal is already in place and he will be a Man U player next season.
As for Baldy's point of where does it leave DDG, then I would say still number 1. Valdes is far from the keeper he was and will be looking to get 1 last pay check.
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Post by Boogaloo on Oct 24, 2014 14:53:49 GMT
Valdes to Man Utd could well be a goer. A sort of 'try before you buy', or rather try before you offer him a contract. I think he's a good player, and 32 isn't old for a goalkeeper. Man Utd could well unload De Gea to Real, but I can't see Real handing over their prize asset Ronaldo any time soon - he's scored 15 goals already this season - the same amount as Messi AND Neymar combined.
Plus as good as Ronaldo, I don't think it's what Man Utd need right now. It's the same reason Arsenal didn't take up the option to bring back Fabregas. Plus, I think van Gaal would probably go for a defender such as Sergio Ramos.
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Post by tonyw on Oct 24, 2014 15:00:34 GMT
Plus as good as Ronaldo, I don't think it's what Man Utd need right now. It's the same reason Arsenal didn't take up the option to bring back Fabregas. Plus, I think van Gaal would probably go for a defender such as Sergio Ramos. He certainly should! Man U already have - in Di Maria, Falcao, Rooney and Van Persie - four of the World's top X forward players (X = 20,30,50 depending on your viewpoint but, whatever, it's four great attacking players). If their next signing isn't a central defender, I'm going to get seriously angry. (at the idiocy of it all, that is - not because of any emotional ties) And the same is true of your lot, Boogs......although for them a defensive CM would also be acceptable.
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Post by bicesteryellow on Oct 24, 2014 15:25:36 GMT
I read somewhere it was $1,000,000,000. Good luck negotiating that down to £35,000,000 £35m wont get him, of course not. What I am saying is that they could use a player with a value of £35m as part of the deal. Never mind the fact that Real are after a top class keeper and one who comes from the City and is among the best in the world may be becoming available. I don't think there is any chance that Man U would indulge in a transfer with Real without throwing the name of Ronaldo in to the negotiations. They could and would. Take this summer for example. Javier Hernández went one way and Ángel di María went the other.
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Post by Young Money on Oct 25, 2014 9:40:37 GMT
Man Utd seem to be obsessed with signing ageing forwards. In a year or two Ronaldo, Rooney, Falcao and Van Persie would all be over 30.
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