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Post by oxfordkne on Oct 22, 2014 11:06:10 GMT
" Saw the team, said we'd get battered...
Wilder is losing the plot...quickly. He got everything wrong tonight.
The starting line up and the changes he made had no logic, it's hard to know where to start.
He's signed a very talented squad of players but at this moment in time he doesn't appear to know what to do with them. And he's starting to spout crap in his interviews. Honeymoon period over." It has a very familiar ring to it me thinks !
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Post by baldy on Oct 22, 2014 11:28:27 GMT
" Saw the team, said we'd get battered...
Wilder is losing the plot...quickly. He got everything wrong tonight.
The starting line up and the changes he made had no logic, it's hard to know where to start.
He's signed a very talented squad of players but at this moment in time he doesn't appear to know what to do with them. And he's starting to spout crap in his interviews. Honeymoon period over." It has a very familiar ring to it me thinks ! Appleton is so refreshing in interviews in comparison to Wilder. He's protective, of course, but I never feel that he dresses it up any differently to how I've actually seen it. I said elsewhere that this team seem to be mirroring his demeanour. There is very little panic in Appleton and the team play exactly the same way. He's not constantly in and out of the dug out or loads of manic gesticulating. He stands there, measured and calm as if to say there's no need to point and shout because the players know their remit. Wilder is a good L2 manager no doubt but I'm happy that we have a more likeable man at the helm and one who very calmly will go about his job in an efficient manner. Ironically my perception of Waddock was that he was going to be very similar to Appleton in the way he managed. I don't really recognise the bit the Northampton fan said that he doesn't know what to do with them. Organisation was most definitely his strong point, his way was rarely muddled or shrouded in confusion. My gripe with Wilder was more how he sent out his team and the more defensive approach that he adopted. Appleton seems to be getting a better balance in terms of strong and pacey full backs, an energetic midfield and a mixture of playing through the middle or going wide. Wilder will be OK there, they've got a decent manager. Albeit one who didn't ultimately kick on from his early success here.
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Post by tonyw on Oct 22, 2014 12:15:35 GMT
I don't really recognise the bit the Northampton fan said that he doesn't know what to do with them. Organisation was most definitely his strong point, his way was rarely muddled or shrouded in confusion. My gripe with Wilder was more how he sent out his team and the more defensive approach that he adopted. Appleton seems to be getting a better balance in terms of strong and pacey full backs, an energetic midfield and a mixture of playing through the middle or going wide. The weird thing is that Northampton are only one goal off being the highest scorers in the division (and would be highest if we had defended at all against Cambridge!). But they've shipped more goals than all but a couple of teams as well. I wonder if Wilder has modified his approach a little in his current job, based on what ultimately happened when he was here? I hope so for their sake, because his teams are supposed to be top at this point in the season, so they can survive the annual February collapse!
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Post by Paul Cannell on Oct 22, 2014 12:19:38 GMT
" And he's starting to spout crap in his interviews. Honeymoon period over." It has a very familiar ring to it me thinks ! Here ya go. “We’ve lost three games on the bounce so obviously I’m not happy,” he said.
“I personally didn’t think there was a lot in the game tonight, we started on the front foot, both sides looked dangerous going forward but then we had five minutes of madness.
“The team gave it a go, we created chances again and we kept going to the end but we are just lacking a bit of confidence which is what happens when you lose a couple of games.
“We need to be better in certain areas but we’ve just got to stick together and work that bit harder.
“We are only in October but we need to get ourselves through this period quickly and hopefully the next result is the one that gets us going again.”Same old shite.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 15:14:11 GMT
" And he's starting to spout crap in his interviews. Honeymoon period over." It has a very familiar ring to it me thinks ! Here ya go. “We’ve lost three games on the bounce so obviously I’m not happy,” he said.
“I personally didn’t think there was a lot in the game tonight, we started on the front foot, both sides looked dangerous going forward but then we had five minutes of madness.
“The team gave it a go, we created chances again and we kept going to the end but we are just lacking a bit of confidence which is what happens when you lose a couple of games.
“We need to be better in certain areas but we’ve just got to stick together and work that bit harder.
“We are only in October but we need to get ourselves through this period quickly and hopefully the next result is the one that gets us going again.”Same old shite. It's so refreshing not hearing "gave it a go" after every single blooming match!
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Post by Long John Silver on Oct 22, 2014 17:39:57 GMT
I don't really recognise the bit the Northampton fan said that he doesn't know what to do with them. Organisation was most definitely his strong point, his way was rarely muddled or shrouded in confusion. My gripe with Wilder was more how he sent out his team and the more defensive approach that he adopted. Appleton seems to be getting a better balance in terms of strong and pacey full backs, an energetic midfield and a mixture of playing through the middle or going wide. The weird thing is that Northampton are only one goal off being the highest scorers in the division (and would be highest if we had defended at all against Cambridge!). But they've shipped more goals than all but a couple of teams as well. I wonder if Wilder has modified his approach a little in his current job, based on what ultimately happened when he was here? I hope so for their sake, because his teams are supposed to be top at this point in the season, so they can survive the annual February collapse! Weren't we top scorers at the beginning of last season? That changed as the season went on... and probably will do at Northampton.
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Post by tonyw on Oct 22, 2014 19:09:04 GMT
Weren't we top scorers at the beginning of last season? That changed as the season went on... and probably will do at Northampton. At the equivalent stage of last season, we were top scorers and we had the best defensive record in League Two. (and as a result, we were obviously top of the league) www.statto.com/football/stats/england/league-two/2013-2014/table/2013-10-26Northampton's performances so far don't exact bear the hallmarks of a classic Wilder defensive set-up!
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Post by Paul Cannell on Oct 22, 2014 19:19:47 GMT
I heard he threw the darts at the 'available players list' left-handed this summer. Kept the blindfold on though.
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Post by Mark on Oct 22, 2014 19:25:39 GMT
Weren't we top scorers at the beginning of last season? That changed as the season went on... and probably will do at Northampton. At the equivalent stage of last season, we were top scorers and we had the best defensive record in League Two. (and as a result, we were obviously top of the league) www.statto.com/football/stats/england/league-two/2013-2014/table/2013-10-26Northampton's performances so far don't exact bear the hallmarks of a classic Wilder defensive set-up! So where does that put Appleton, a couple of points below Northampton ? Let's wait til may, but it looks unlikely either team will be in the auto promotion places.
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Post by Colin B on Oct 22, 2014 19:38:59 GMT
We could write the script for Northampton's season now.
God, how I'm glad he's gone.
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Post by MJB on Oct 22, 2014 19:43:43 GMT
Remains the man who rescued us from another year in the non-League.
For that I'll always have a soft spot for Wilder.
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Post by bicesteryellow on Oct 22, 2014 19:46:01 GMT
He was the right man at the right time for us, and he is a skilled manager. He's in our past now, so any debate is irrelevant.
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 22, 2014 19:47:37 GMT
And hopefully mapp is going to be the man who will rescue us from another year in league 2. While cw finishes 8-9th
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Post by Colin B on Oct 22, 2014 19:47:51 GMT
Remains the man who rescued us from another year in the non-League. For that I'll always have a soft spot for Wilder. Outstayed his welcome though. Got too big for his boots, and slagged off the fans, both in public and in private.
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Post by bicesteryellow on Oct 22, 2014 19:49:53 GMT
And hopefully mapp is going to be the man who will rescue us from another year in league 2. While cw finishes 8-9th I hope we do get promoted. Couldn't care less where Northampton finish though.
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 22, 2014 19:52:07 GMT
And hopefully mapp is going to be the man who will rescue us from another year in league 2. While cw finishes 8-9th I hope we do get promoted. Couldn't care less where Northampton finish though. What? Hope? Thought u believed
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Post by greatunclekip on Oct 22, 2014 19:56:15 GMT
You cannot compare the two. Wilder is much better tactically. Appleton is naive (but seemingly learning).
I would still fancy Nton to finish comfortably above us....
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Post by bicesteryellow on Oct 22, 2014 19:59:24 GMT
I hope we do get promoted. Couldn't care less where Northampton finish though. What? Hope? Thought u believed To quote rapper Aloe "Vera" Bacc, I believe every lie that I ever told, paid for every heart that I ever stole, I played my cards and I didn't fold, but it ain't that hard when you got soul. Somewhere I heard that life is a test, I been through the worst but I still did my best. God made my mould different from the rest, then he broke that mould so I know I'm blessed. Stand up now and face the sun, won't hide my tail or turn and run, it's time to do what must be done, be a king when kingdom comes. Well you can tell everybody, yeah you can tell everybody, yeah you can tell everybody, I'm the man I'm the man I'm the man.
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Post by bicesteryellow on Oct 22, 2014 20:00:00 GMT
You cannot compare the two. Wilder is much better tactically. Appleton is naive (but seemingly learning). I would still fancy Nton to finish comfortably above us.... Can't see it myself.
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 22, 2014 20:00:59 GMT
You cannot compare the two. Wilder is much better tactically. Appleton is naive (but seemingly learning). I would still fancy Nton to finish comfortably above us.... Last night suggests different , especially tactically
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Post by teamyellow on Oct 22, 2014 20:21:09 GMT
You cannot compare the two. Wilder is much better tactically. Appleton is naive (but seemingly learning). I would still fancy Nton to finish comfortably above us.... Holy f*cking shit
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Post by amershamdave on Oct 22, 2014 21:00:16 GMT
What? Hope? Thought u believed To quote rapper Aloe "Vera" Bacc, I believe every lie that I ever told, paid for every heart that I ever stole, I played my cards and I didn't fold, but it ain't that hard when you got soul. Somewhere I heard that life is a test, I been through the worst but I still did my best. God made my mould different from the rest, then he broke that mould so I know I'm blessed. Stand up now and face the sun, won't hide my tail or turn and run, it's time to do what must be done, be a king when kingdom comes. Well you can tell everybody, yeah you can tell everybody, yeah you can tell everybody, I'm the man I'm the man I'm the man. And to quote the Mayor of Hiroshima, when that bomb went off in 1945: "What the f*ck was that?"
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Post by thesecretposter on Oct 22, 2014 21:03:54 GMT
You cannot compare the two. Wilder is much better tactically. Appleton is naive (but seemingly learning). I would still fancy Nton to finish comfortably above us.... I want what you're drinking/smoking/taking!
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Post by bicesteryellow on Oct 22, 2014 21:10:31 GMT
To quote rapper Aloe "Vera" Bacc, I believe every lie that I ever told, paid for every heart that I ever stole, I played my cards and I didn't fold, but it ain't that hard when you got soul. Somewhere I heard that life is a test, I been through the worst but I still did my best. God made my mould different from the rest, then he broke that mould so I know I'm blessed. Stand up now and face the sun, won't hide my tail or turn and run, it's time to do what must be done, be a king when kingdom comes. Well you can tell everybody, yeah you can tell everybody, yeah you can tell everybody, I'm the man I'm the man I'm the man. And to quote the Mayor of Hiroshima, when that bomb went off in 1945: "What the f*ck was that?" A popular inspirational song by Aloe Blacc, although I call him Vera.
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Post by amershamdave on Oct 22, 2014 21:14:22 GMT
And to quote the Mayor of Hiroshima, when that bomb went off in 1945: "What the f*ck was that?" A popular inspirational song by Aloe Blacc, although I call him Vera. Thank you for that enlightenment, Mr. Bicester
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Post by bicesteryellow on Oct 22, 2014 21:15:06 GMT
A popular inspirational song by Aloe Blacc, although I call him Vera. Thank you for that enlightenment, Mr. Bicester Do you like it?
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Post by barmyarmy on Oct 22, 2014 21:22:40 GMT
You cannot compare the two. Wilder is much better tactically. Appleton is naive (but seemingly learning). I would still fancy Nton to finish comfortably above us.... Im glad Appleton is learning, Wilder is in his 5th season, whats he learnt?
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Post by Maurice Earp on Oct 22, 2014 21:26:25 GMT
You cannot compare the two. Wilder is much better tactically. Appleton is naive (but seemingly learning). I would still fancy Nton to finish comfortably above us.... Im glad Appleton is learning, Wilder is in his 5th season, whats he learnt? Not alot it seems. Glad he's gone, he should have gone sooner than he did.
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Post by Mark on Oct 22, 2014 21:38:11 GMT
You cannot compare the two. Wilder is much better tactically. Appleton is naive (but seemingly learning). I would still fancy Nton to finish comfortably above us.... Im glad Appleton is learning, Wilder is in his 5th season, whats he learnt? What? How many management jobs did wilder leave for better prospects? And how many has Appleton been sacked from? Not saying wilder should have stayed on, but look at the two management careers. One's been a successful lower / conference manager. The other nothing so far. I've slightly more confidence after the last two games that we will finish above Northampton this season.
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Post by yellowg on Oct 22, 2014 21:57:19 GMT
I must say, Wilder's interviews are pretty poor. He seems to hit a default button that allows his mouth to work much quicker than his brain.
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