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Post by harrycarry on Oct 11, 2014 15:57:50 GMT
Please can OXVOX make an attempt to stop our club going out of the league again, we need action NOW
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Post by SteMerritt on Oct 11, 2014 15:59:16 GMT
What are you proposing that they do?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2014 15:59:56 GMT
Get your boots out Messrs Bradbury, Francis & Faulkner.
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Post by wallop on Oct 11, 2014 21:16:18 GMT
At the Oxvox meeting last week, Mark said that the new management are concerned that Oxvox's feedback is not always positive. Well, my current mood is not positive and I hope Ashton and Eyles can start to show a little more contrition and admit there is some trouble at mill and explain what they plan to do to address it.
I've endured 4 years in the Conference and don't think I could face it again. If I can't as someone who has had a season ticket for over 30 years, there will be hundreds/thousands of others who will feel the same.
We are in a real crisis.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2014 21:18:36 GMT
If that's their opinion of oxvox (who have been gentle to date) I suggest they sit down with Martin brodetsky for an hour and he explains to them the last 20 years of ownership
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Post by bicesteryellow on Oct 11, 2014 21:34:01 GMT
Get your boots out Mr Sennett. For marching or for kicking?
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Post by bicesteryellow on Oct 11, 2014 21:34:22 GMT
What are you proposing that they do? Stage a coup?
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Post by lodeyellow on Oct 12, 2014 10:24:19 GMT
I'm not an OxVox member any more, but I think it would be good if the committee came out with some sort of statement. It would at least show that they take the present situation very seriously (which I'm sure they do).
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Post by chuckbert on Oct 12, 2014 13:54:38 GMT
I don't get it. There are loads of things that Oxvox should be hassling the club about, but does anyone honestly think that the management need telling the current state of results is shit? That's not what supporters' trusts are for is it?
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Post by mcf86 on Oct 12, 2014 14:20:53 GMT
I don't get it. There are loads of things that Oxvox should be hassling the club about, but does anyone honestly think that the management need telling the current state of results is shit? That's not what supporters' trusts are for is it? Probably not, but, it would nice if they came out of the bunker and said wtf they intend doing about it!! As it stands, and as far as us mushrooms know- they are doing nothing, nothing at all. That's what makes the current situation worse for fans.
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Post by nick68 on Oct 12, 2014 14:47:25 GMT
We're hardly treated like mushrooms are we? There's just been a fans forum, Ashton answers questions every Monday morning on the radio and Eales has said his door is open? If people really have genuine concerns about anything then make use of these avenues of communication rather than whine about not being told anything.
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Post by oufcyellows on Oct 12, 2014 14:51:50 GMT
We're hardly treated like mushrooms are we? There's just been a fans forum, Ashton answers questions every Monday morning on the radio and Eales has said his door is open? If people really have genuine concerns about anything then make use of these avenues of communication rather than whine about not being told anything. Maybe someone could ask that exact question this Monday instead of wasting the questions with shit like do u prefer tea or coffee at half time, or any news on the stadium
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Post by tomoufc on Oct 12, 2014 16:00:18 GMT
OxVox should be making contigency plans for having to start a new club under fan ownership. Let's not wait till it hits he fan. Start planning for it now. What league would we enter the pyramid, where could we ground-share until we built our own stadium? Would the council help find us somewhere to build a stadium? How have FC United done this? How did AFCW overcome their various problems?
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Post by chuckbert on Oct 12, 2014 16:17:45 GMT
OxVox should be making contigency plans for having to start a new club under fan ownership. Let's not wait till it hits he fan. Start planning for it now. What league would we enter the pyramid, where could we ground-share until we built our own stadium? Would the council help find us somewhere to build a stadium? How have FC United done this? How did AFCW overcome their various problems? Right - that's what a supporters' trust is for, and from what I can tell, the Oxvox committee are amongst the best informed about those issues. What Oxvox does is unlikely to magically stop our club going out of the league again, though.
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Post by Si Bradbury on Oct 14, 2014 9:29:59 GMT
Get your boots out Mr Sennett. Have you seen that TOAD play football? If the FA ever employed rolling subs, then maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2014 9:33:52 GMT
Get your boots out Mr Sennett. Have you seen that TOAD play football? If the FA ever employed rolling subs, then maybe. Point taken. Post amended.
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Post by Si Bradbury on Oct 14, 2014 9:35:38 GMT
I'm not an OxVox member any more, but I think it would be good if the committee came out with some sort of statement. It would at least show that they take the present situation very seriously (which I'm sure they do). Hi Lode. I understand the frustrations but OxVox, I don't believe, should be interfering or exerting pressures on a situation that relates to the manager. OxVox have done that before and it is very difficult to justify a position on the management when we have 500+ different views. It isn't our remit. Yet, I can assure people, that I think the club senior management are quite aware of fans feelings as they speak to a lot of people. What they don't need at the moment, is an official body, making demands or making the situation worse. Appleton AND the Players deserve to rectify the situation in the coming weeks - that's my opinion.
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Post by Si Bradbury on Oct 14, 2014 9:37:04 GMT
Get your boots out Messrs Bradbury, Francis & Faulkner. Now having played against Southend Supporters and helping the 'OxVox' team to win and making a HUGE, SIGNIFICANT, contribution (Sihath did OK too) I think all my teammates would be happy to see me partner Mullins at the back.
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Post by Si Bradbury on Oct 14, 2014 9:46:44 GMT
OxVox should be making contigency plans for having to start a new club under fan ownership. Let's not wait till it hits he fan. Start planning for it now. What league would we enter the pyramid, where could we ground-share until we built our own stadium? Would the council help find us somewhere to build a stadium? How have FC United done this? How did AFCW overcome their various problems? I think you're being hugely disrespectful to Daryl Eales, the investment he has put in (buying the club for a significant fee, investment in the squad, investment in the management etc etc) and his vision by suggesting we even need to worry about a phoenix club. I think we're further from being sent to the wall than we have been for some significant time. We, the fans, had our answers and concerns addressed in exemplary fashion at the recent Fans Forum. However, respectfully addressing some of your questions, I'd suggest Mr Kassam would let any club play at the Kassam - laugh at me all you like - but that's what I believe. The rest of it is pure scare-mongering and defeatist and not on any OxVox agenda, AT ALL. Should something happen, one day, then the Supporters Trust movement would be there to help people sort it out.
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Post by sihath on Oct 14, 2014 10:01:16 GMT
Get your boots out Messrs Bradbury, Francis & Faulkner. Now having played against Southend Supporters and helping the 'OxVox' team to win and making a HUGE, SIGNIFICANT, contribution (Sihath did OK too) I think all my teammates would be happy to see me partner Mullins at the back. Any plans to bring the team back together for the Ox-Vox 6-a-side? Anyone else on here play at Southend?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 10:03:02 GMT
OxVox should be making contigency plans for having to start a new club under fan ownership. Let's not wait till it hits he fan. Start planning for it now. What league would we enter the pyramid, where could we ground-share until we built our own stadium? Would the council help find us somewhere to build a stadium? How have FC United done this? How did AFCW overcome their various problems? I think you're being hugely disrespectful to Daryl Eales, the investment he has put in (buying the club for a significant fee, investment in the squad, investment in the management etc etc) and his vision by suggesting we even need to worry about a phoenix club. I think we're further from being sent to the wall than we have been for some significant time. We, the fans, had our answers and concerns addressed in exemplary fashion at the recent Fans Forum. However, respectfully addressing some of your questions, I'd suggest Mr Kassam would let any club play at the Kassam - laugh at me all you like - but that's what I believe. The rest of it is pure scare-mongering and defeatist and not on any OxVox agenda, AT ALL. Should something happen, one day, then the Supporters Trust movement would be there to help people sort it out. I agree fully with your opening points BB. As for Kassam, the stadium is a business and as long as anyone can pay he will rent.
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Post by tomoufc on Oct 15, 2014 17:32:29 GMT
It may appear disrespectful, but I can't get my head around how he's going to sort out our financial woes by piling more debt onto the club. In fact I can't see a way out of our financial woes full stop.
As to the Kastad being a 'business', well yes it is in one sense - it's there to make money for someone. And that's where our problems really lie, because OUFC really isn't a business. If it were, it would have folded many years ago, or merged with Reading.
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Post by Colin B on Oct 15, 2014 17:52:40 GMT
OxVox should be making contigency plans for having to start a new club under fan ownership. Let's not wait till it hits he fan. Start planning for it now. What league would we enter the pyramid, where could we ground-share until we built our own stadium? Would the council help find us somewhere to build a stadium? How have FC United done this? How did AFCW overcome their various problems? I think you're being hugely disrespectful to Daryl Eales, the investment he has put in (buying the club for a significant fee, investment in the squad, investment in the management etc etc) and his vision by suggesting we even need to worry about a phoenix club. I think we're further from being sent to the wall than we have been for some significant time. We, the fans, had our answers and concerns addressed in exemplary fashion at the recent Fans Forum. However, respectfully addressing some of your questions, I'd suggest Mr Kassam would let any club play at the Kassam - laugh at me all you like - but that's what I believe. The rest of it is pure scare-mongering and defeatist and not on any OxVox agenda, AT ALL. Should something happen, one day, then the Supporters Trust movement would be there to help people sort it out. Should there ever be a Phoenix club, then the very last place it should play is the kassam stadium!
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Post by pottersrightboot on Oct 15, 2014 18:07:20 GMT
It may appear disrespectful, but I can't get my head around how he's going to sort out our financial woes by piling more debt onto the club. In fact I can't see a way out of our financial woes full stop. As to the Kastad being a 'business', well yes it is in one sense - it's there to make money for someone. And that's where our problems really lie, because OUFC really isn't a business. If it were, it would have folded many years ago, or merged with Reading. What do you mean 'our problems'? OUFC are a lower league football club. It's not a business in the traditional sense. Nor has it ever been. In the last 50 years when has the club ever made any money? Eales fancies a tilt at glory - like so many club owners. I bet Saturday's televised debacle really hurt him - all his VC mates probably laughing at him buying a pig in a poke no doubt. I further bet Appleton was left in no doubt by Eales/Ashton that such a shambles cannot be tolerated again. I predict a thumping win on Saturday btw.
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Post by foley on Oct 15, 2014 19:18:18 GMT
BB or Mark, Did MA really suggest that he was concerned that the feedback from Oxvox is not always positive? I assume if so (which I find hard to believe) then he was put straight?
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Post by oxymoron on Oct 15, 2014 21:13:24 GMT
Doesn't that depend upon the context that this (alleged) reply was made in?
If they are saying that OxVox should always be positive in their dealings with the OUFC management, then that is clearly not a street they can expect to be walking.
If they are saying that they are concerned that OxVox have highlighted issues with some aspects of the the club's infrastructure or management, then it can only be a good thing that they are concerned about things that also concern us.
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Post by tomoufc on Oct 16, 2014 1:36:57 GMT
What do you mean 'our problems'? Financial problems - problems that we will be left with once the present owners have got bored of their 'tilt at glory'In the last 50 years when has the club ever made any money? That I'm not sure of. What I do know is that not owning the stadium ensures that we'll lose millions every yearI predict a thumping win on Saturday btw. Good for you.
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Post by bicesteryellow on Oct 16, 2014 6:35:00 GMT
I predict a thumping win on Saturday btw. Good for you.Do you not?
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Post by oxonian on Oct 19, 2014 14:47:01 GMT
Get your boots out Mr Sennett. Have you seen that TOAD play football? If the FA ever employed rolling subs, then maybe. Running in treacle comes to mind
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Post by foley on Oct 24, 2014 14:20:31 GMT
BB or Mark, Did MA really suggest that he was concerned that the feedback from Oxvox is not always positive? I assume if so (which I find hard to believe) then he was put straight? Sorry to bring this back up, but did Mark/BB miss it or would they rather not answer?
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