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Post by joey on Sept 21, 2014 16:12:33 GMT
Ok man Utd have conceded 8. Palace 4 Southampton 3 Stoke 5 city 4. Pretty simple really - not the best defence in the league . Difficult for u to understand I know you're simple. So focus on the word 'was' 8-5=3 Cheers. Love u really x I don't normally get involved with what you post junior as I don't think there's any point getting wound up and replying to someone looking for a reaction, but you're being bang out of order here. You have children don't you? How would you feel if they had a learning disability and someone took the p*ss out of them for it, on social networks or face to face? When a child does it it's bad, but an adult is beyond pathetic. You've got some growing up to do.
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Post by andystroud on Sept 21, 2014 16:14:58 GMT
Leicester 1 Man U 6 Man C 3 Chelsea 0 Spurs 1 WBA 2 Everton 1 Crystal Palace 3 Good to see you going for all of the underdogs
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Post by oufcyellows on Sept 21, 2014 16:15:15 GMT
Fair enough on re reading u did say that. I actually read flat cap out loud as cat flap on Friday so not that far off. But like Oxford being described as far better than the points on the board, saying they were, was or are the best defence in the league is just wrong. But I will give u that they are better at the back than Liverpool .
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Post by bacon on Sept 21, 2014 16:15:56 GMT
Since when has blue v blue been acceptable?
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Post by unification on Sept 21, 2014 16:21:56 GMT
No mention of Clattenberg? Surprising. He changed the game completely. If he doesn't seek attention and limelight Man Utd win that easily. Another week, another day of 'if, if, if' from Junior regarding Manchester United's failings. Just face it, with that team, they should be blowing Leicester away. But they themselves let in five. Stop making excuses for them.
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Post by oufcyellows on Sept 21, 2014 16:31:57 GMT
U would have got good odds on west ham beating Liverpool , Leicester beating man Utd. And palace beating Everton
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Post by joey on Sept 21, 2014 16:34:51 GMT
Chelsea are going to take some catching this season. Should they win this they'll be 8 points ahead of Man City, and I can't see them dropping too many as the season goes on. Still best part of 20 minutes left in his game though.
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Post by stevegilbert on Sept 21, 2014 16:36:13 GMT
I also have dyslexia and unfortunately there are some people who don't understand how difficult it can be for some people. Junior being who he is tends to be very narrow minded and things are either black or white in life. He struggles when he is challenged and results to playground insults or failing that ignores your questions. He has his little vendettas in life and can't let things go. I would get used to him being on your case for a bit oufcyellows. You've an agenda, Steve. Must be living close to Liverpool that's caused it. Not your fault. though. It never is. I have no agenda, I am sticking up for someone who is getting unfairly bullied by you on a internet forum. You are a grown man taking the p*ss out of another mans learning disability. I will be appalled if the mods don't take action because IMO it is crossing the line when getting personal like you have and making fun of something that the person has no control over as you are born with it. You get in a dig at me about living close to Liverpool yet the ironic thing is I still only support Oxford United and no other team.
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Post by stevegilbert on Sept 21, 2014 16:37:10 GMT
U would have got good odds on west ham beating Liverpool , Leicester beating man Utd. And palace beating Everton Add west brom to that list as well. Has been a good weekend for the bookies.
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Post by oufcyellows on Sept 21, 2014 16:46:15 GMT
Had to be frank. Only a few mins after Chelsea fans were singing his name . No celebration though.
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Post by Junior on Sept 21, 2014 17:14:48 GMT
No mention of Clattenberg? Surprising. He changed the game completely. If he doesn't seek attention and limelight Man Utd win that easily. Another week, another day of 'if, if, if' from Junior regarding Manchester United's failings. Just face it, with that team, they should be blowing Leicester away. But they themselves let in five. Stop making excuses for them. Did you only watch it from 3-3? They were in total control up until the penalty. That changed the the game and shifted the momentum of the game towards Leicester. You mention Man Utd's failings. What are they ( presume we are talking about results after today's game ) the defence was one of the best in the league. Ok, results you'd expect should be better, but that's like the rest of the league.
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Post by baldy on Sept 21, 2014 17:21:14 GMT
Man U should never ever lose that from the position they were in but I think that could be the pattern of their season, lots of five, six, seven goal matches. They have the best attack in the PL bar none, that's obvious, but unless they can sort a centre back pairing out then there will perhaps be too many days like this. I've said consistently that they are ken centre back short but from Evans, Rojos, Jones, Smalling, Rafael, Shaw and Blackett they should be able to perm four that stay in some sort of form. I'd go, when all fit, Jones at right back, Evans and Rojos down the middle and Shaw at left back. They need to play and build partnerships though.
All crap aside though let's not lose sight of what turned that game. I doubt you will see a more woeful sequence of refereeing in the PL this season. Everyone could see it, Rafael was blatantly shoved off the ball and he never touched Vqrdy in the box. Watch it, Vardy just falls into Rafael. It's ridiculous refereeing. Man U were coasting and possession was something like 70/30 in their favour. They get a lifeline, the crowd get right up, Man U lose their shape probably down to feeling hard done by. No complaints with The Blackett red - definite penalty.
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Post by baldy on Sept 21, 2014 17:25:49 GMT
I'm old enough to remember a 6-3 defeat at The Dell to Southampton. Four months later they were lifting the PL title and as I remember they followed or preceded that Southampton result with another heavy loss somewhere, 5-0 if I remember right. LVG said on MUTV that when he was in charge of Barcelona they were 3-0 up with 18 minutes to go and lost 4-3 to a team near the bottom.
Freak results happen and just add to the colour of the most exciting league in the world.
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Post by Boogaloo on Sept 21, 2014 17:26:13 GMT
I actually thought Ozil had a very good game yesterday. He has been subject to criticism from the press (justified to be fair), but he has answered his critics back in style. The attacking central midfielder position suits him down to a tee, rather than placing him out on the wing. He linked together very well together with Danny Welbeck, and was dangerous whenever he had the ball.
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Post by Junior on Sept 21, 2014 17:29:09 GMT
I actually thought Ozil had a very good game yesterday. He has been subject to criticism from the press (justified to be fair), but he has answered his critics back in style. The attacking central midfielder position suits him down to a tee, rather than placing him out on the wing. He linked together very well together with Danny Welbeck, and was dangerous whenever he had the ball. Every football fan agrees the number 10 role suits Ozil. He's a world class player in that role. Why then has Wenger not utilised him in that position?
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Post by nige01ox on Sept 21, 2014 17:31:31 GMT
I actually thought Ozil had a very good game yesterday. He has been subject to criticism from the press (justified to be fair), but he has answered his critics back in style. The attacking central midfielder position suits him down to a tee, rather than placing him out on the wing. He linked together very well together with Danny Welbeck, and was dangerous whenever he had the ball. 1 good game? Got to have a run of good performances before fans & the media ease up on him. Only took him 13 months to score a goal away from the Emirates.
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Post by Junior on Sept 21, 2014 17:32:38 GMT
Play him in the number 10 role and he'll produce. Records prove that.
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Post by Boogaloo on Sept 21, 2014 17:34:13 GMT
I actually thought Ozil had a very good game yesterday. He has been subject to criticism from the press (justified to be fair), but he has answered his critics back in style. The attacking central midfielder position suits him down to a tee, rather than placing him out on the wing. He linked together very well together with Danny Welbeck, and was dangerous whenever he had the ball. 1 good game? Got to have a run of good performances before fans & the media ease up on him. Only took him 13 months to score a goal away from the Emirates. That's why I said the criticism from the press was justified.
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Post by baldy on Sept 21, 2014 17:41:32 GMT
Play him in the number 10 role and he'll produce. Records prove that. Yeah records when he was with a team like Real.
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Post by Junior on Sept 21, 2014 17:42:13 GMT
Does Di Maria's record at Real not count then?
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Post by grumpygit on Sept 21, 2014 17:43:59 GMT
Your arrogance and knowledge of top flight football shows no bounds. ManUre are in dire trouble. King Louis at the helm, record amounts invested in the team and yet... King Louis, as in the Jungle book?
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Post by baldy on Sept 21, 2014 17:44:37 GMT
What about Sanchez ? Fair to say he's taking time to adapt ? Di Maria though seems to have settled well. His goal today will get lost amongst all that happened later but that was some goal. Falcao impressed too.
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Post by baldy on Sept 21, 2014 17:50:36 GMT
Does Di Maria's record at Real not count then? Of course it does but my point is that Ozil has looked distinctly second rate amongst inferior footballers. He hasn't stood out which I'm suggesting is perhaps because he's not actually that great and that the superior players at Real covered over his deficiencies. It's early days with Di Maria but, so far, two goals in three games and four assists in those three games suggest he is a hell if a lot nearer world class than Ozil. He's also currently amongst inferior team mates but he's come to the fore in spectacular fashion so far.
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Post by baldy on Sept 21, 2014 17:56:22 GMT
Leicester 1 Man U 6 Man C 3 Chelsea 0 Spurs 1 WBA 2 Everton 1 Crystal Palace 3 Good to see you going for all of the underdogs [/quot I'm going to claim a couple of good calls there. In fairness, at 3-1 up and dominating possession and with 36 minutes to go my 6-1 might not have been too far out had that match been refereed by any other official apart from the clown that actually had the gig.
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Post by Junior on Sept 21, 2014 17:57:50 GMT
Does Di Maria's record at Real not count then? Of course it does but my point is that Ozil has looked distinctly second rate amongst inferior footballers. He hasn't stood out which I'm suggesting is perhaps because he's not actually that great and that the superior players at Real covered over his deficiencies. It's early days with Di Maria but, so far, two goals in three games and four assists in those three games suggest he is a hell if a lot nearer world class than Ozil. He's also currently amongst inferior team mates but he's come to the fore in spectacular fashion so far. Ozil is class if played correctly. Attachments:
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Post by bazzer9461 on Sept 21, 2014 18:06:43 GMT
I'm old enough to remember a 6-3 defeat at The Dell to Southampton. Four months later they were lifting the PL title and as I remember they followed or preceded that Southampton result with another heavy loss somewhere, 5-0 if I remember right. LVG said on MUTV that when he was in charge of Barcelona they were 3-0 up with 18 minutes to go and lost 4-3 to a team near the bottom. Freak results happen and just add to the colour of the most exciting league in the world. Getting a lot of them lately.
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Post by baldy on Sept 21, 2014 18:10:45 GMT
Of course it does but my point is that Ozil has looked distinctly second rate amongst inferior footballers. He hasn't stood out which I'm suggesting is perhaps because he's not actually that great and that the superior players at Real covered over his deficiencies. It's early days with Di Maria but, so far, two goals in three games and four assists in those three games suggest he is a hell if a lot nearer world class than Ozil. He's also currently amongst inferior team mates but he's come to the fore in spectacular fashion so far. Ozil is class if played correctly. Of course he's a very good player, I accept that, but my argument has always been that he falls short of genuine world class. He's done nothing really here in nearly 18 months and in the life span of a professional footballer 18 months represents a long time. At what point do you think a footballer has to stop living off reputation and begin to deliver ? Where's the point going to come that we declare a footballer has having had time to live or die by the reputation that precedes him ? You can't keep waiting for tomorrow .We've all written Fellaini off, fair enough in my opinion because he just couldn't continue producing as he did at Everton. If Bale flopped at Real and was back at these shores with, say, Spurs we'd all be declaring him not world class and rightly so. Proper world class footballers have peaks and troughs but the troughs don't tend to last 18 months.
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Post by Junior on Sept 21, 2014 18:14:23 GMT
Where do you stand on RVP...
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Post by oufcyellows on Sept 21, 2014 18:17:47 GMT
If fabregas had been available 12 months earlier then ozil would never have worn a arsenal shirt. He can't have been that bad though as man Utd were in for him right up to the point arsenal signed him I think. Some players just can't adapt to the English leagues for some reason. Veron , shevchenko, and other big names have come over and not lived up to their reputation. Dunno if that's more Down to the league or the team they join. Torres for example , great in the prem settled well then swaps and crap. Maybe ozil would fit better at another team who knows
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Post by oufcyellows on Sept 21, 2014 18:18:19 GMT
Where do you stand on RVP... Don't do that , fergie said it could kill him
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