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Post by yellows1 on Sept 20, 2014 14:03:08 GMT
Is *hit! - Does Oxfordshire want a league football team???
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Post by Long John Silver on Sept 20, 2014 14:55:52 GMT
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Post by blox21 on Sept 20, 2014 15:27:28 GMT
Crowds are down at a lot of clubs ! Shall we all take up shopping with mrs !
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Post by behindthegoal on Sept 20, 2014 16:58:06 GMT
Crowds are down at a lot of clubs ! Shall we all take up shopping with mrs ! If we do that we may as well start growing tits
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Post by uptheus on Sept 20, 2014 18:26:07 GMT
Thought it was funny when it sounded like about 10 of our fans sang "can you hear the Stevenage sing", especially as it was even hard to hear them sing it! Poor vocals again from the East Stand.
Never mind, next week at Luton you'll have the SSU posse to raise the vocals.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 19:02:14 GMT
Yep, insulting the existing fan base & those trying to do something about the atmosphere will definitely bring the missing fans flooding back.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 19:16:35 GMT
There is no need to have a go at those who sang their hearts out I agree, but what will bring the fans back is the quality of football being played by our players. We may have only picked up 1 point today, but the entertaining football was well worth the effort and money to watch them.
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Post by yellows1 on Sept 20, 2014 19:45:40 GMT
Just disappointed that there are so many empty seats, we've had big changes on and off the pitch, that's what people wanted right??? - Where are those missing fans???
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Post by hackneyjack on Sept 20, 2014 19:52:29 GMT
Is *hit! - Does Oxfordshire want a league football team??? Chill the f*ck out. We've had years of shite, it'll take a bit of time to get some of the fans back. Wilder's style was such a killer on the numbers. Our away following is incredible.
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Post by londonroader on Sept 20, 2014 21:17:27 GMT
Just disappointed that there are so many empty seats, we've had big changes on and off the pitch, that's what people wanted right??? - Where are those missing fans??? Still waiting for the priory to re-open so they can have a pint..
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Post by charliesghost on Sept 20, 2014 21:40:50 GMT
Is *hit! - Does Oxfordshire want a league football team??? Chill the f*ck out. We've had years of shite, it'll take a bit of time to get some of the fans back. Wilder's style was such a killer on the numbers. Our away following is incredible. Spot on, Jack. And nor should we forget that our home attendance today is about 3 times that of Stevenage's. Asking if Oxfordshire wants a league football team is hysterical. The teams that went up last season all had smaller home attendances than us, from memory. We had a couple of years of spectacular home crowds, as people wanted to jump on board a bandwagon going up the leagues. Once that momentum was gone, and with the dire lack of excitement, people understandably turned off.
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Post by The Fence End on Sept 21, 2014 7:14:07 GMT
The style of football now will soon have them flocking back, brilliantly watch and a million miles away from the Wilder days.
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Post by sox on Sept 21, 2014 10:30:02 GMT
The style of football now will soon have them flocking back, brilliantly watch and a million miles away from the Wilder days. Agree, but it will take results as well as entertainment, 'the missing' simply won't be aware of the entertainment now on offer. By definition they are a more demanding, temporary, fan base... not those who turn up week in week out irrespective of the shite served up. In many cases they won't have the network with the later so won't hear about the sea change that is happening. There only signal will come through results at 1700 on BBC / Sky Sports, as we climb up the league and OUFC begins to be discussed in positive language associated with the trappings of success. So it's only through results that the missing will know that good things are happening. The club managed to drive them away ... we have to do the right things to bring them back, and we are... we need to be patient. The club needs this demographic back to be sustainable. The reality is it may not be this year, although I still think we might be in for an exciting run in. Whatever happens I am confident that, if we keep on down the path we have set out on across the last few weeks, they will be back eventually along with success. Who knows, we might even create an atmosphere in that god forsaken stadium... that might be asking too much. COYY!
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Post by wandsworthyellow on Sept 21, 2014 15:20:27 GMT
Is *hit! - Does Oxfordshire want a league football team??? Chill the f*ck out. We've had years of shite, it'll take a bit of time to get some of the fans back. Wilder's style was such a killer on the numbers. Our away following is incredible. was @ wba. amazing support. best oxford game for atmosphere since Wembley. home crowds are low due to cost, a 3 sided stadium and years of terrible home form. Simples.
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Post by wandsworthyellow on Sept 21, 2014 15:22:51 GMT
The style of football now will soon have them flocking back, brilliantly watch and a million miles away from the Wilder days. Agree, but it will take results as well as entertainment, 'the missing' simply won't be aware of the entertainment now on offer. By definition they are a more demanding, temporary, fan base... not those who turn up week in week out irrespective of the shite served up. In many cases they won't have the network with the later so won't hear about the sea change that is happening. There only signal will come through results at 1700 on BBC / Sky Sports, as we climb up the league and OUFC begins to be discussed in positive language associated with the trappings of success. So it's only through results that the missing will know that good things are happening. The club managed to drive them away ... we have to do the right things to bring them back, and we are... we need to be patient. The club needs this demographic back to be sustainable. The reality is it may not be this year, although I still think we might be in for an exciting run in. Whatever happens I am confident that, if we keep on down the path we have set out on across the last few weeks, they will be back eventually along with success. Who knows, we might even create an atmosphere in that god forsaken stadium... that might be asking too much. COYY! 100% agree. Need to get 16-25 demographic back. They have a lot of other entertainment vs. 90's
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 15:26:29 GMT
That demographic seems to have melted away compared to years gone by
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Post by wandsworthyellow on Sept 21, 2014 17:14:50 GMT
That demographic seems to have melted away compared to years gone by Aye. @ PL games average age is mid-40's. Footy grounds could be empty in 20 years. With SKY/BT sport being £50 per month, does 30+ bgp for a day out @ oufc add up
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Post by Cardiff Yellow on Sept 21, 2014 17:19:33 GMT
I remember Craddock's debut where the guy next to me spent 70 minutes booing him because Midson was on the bench. Then he scored a peach of a goal and the guy left.
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Post by Junior on Sept 21, 2014 17:31:31 GMT
TC was a class player for us. Shame the boo boys targeted him...
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Post by stevegilbert on Sept 21, 2014 19:02:58 GMT
TC was a class player for us. Shame the boo boys targeted him... Only played 8 games and scored once since leaving us.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Sept 21, 2014 19:05:47 GMT
TC was a class player for us. Shame the boo boys targeted him... Only played 8 games and scored once since leaving us. Still injured isn't he?
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Post by Paul Cannell on Sept 21, 2014 19:10:22 GMT
TC was a class player for us. Shame the boo boys targeted him... The man was a preening ninny, and about as useful in the tackle as a peahen. A terrific waste of air.
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Post by stevegilbert on Sept 21, 2014 19:19:26 GMT
Only played 8 games and scored once since leaving us. Still injured isn't he? Yep. Has been injured for almost a year!
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Post by bigfella72 on Sept 21, 2014 19:24:04 GMT
Ended up taking my youngest daughter on Saturday ( 11 y/o ) and couldn't believe I had to pay £13 for an under 18 ticket! Will think again about taking her as she's not really that interested!
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Post by bazzer9461 on Sept 21, 2014 21:34:23 GMT
Yep. Has been injured for almost a year! glad we got rid then. Shame when fit and on form pretty decent striker.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 6:47:49 GMT
Match day experience is not very appealing for the 16-30 age group.
I don't usually have trouble getting my friends to come to an away game. Unless it's a massive fixture at home they're not Interested.
They don't mind forking out the money for an away game as the whole experience is different but when you factor in the cost for attending a home game it's hardly appealing to the neautral.
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Post by kassamatemyhamster on Sept 22, 2014 8:25:45 GMT
Blox 21 makes a fair point - not about going shopping, but crowds being down elsewhere too. An analysis of the average gates for the first five games played by the home sides this Saturday (who were in L2 last year) and the figures for the same number of games in 2013/14 reveals that:
Only two clubs had higher averages - Northampton and Bury - which as both are getting better results than the same period last time, is to be expected perhaps;
However, the other 7 saw a decrease that ranged in percentage terms from o.18 (Plymouth) to 32.88 (Chelternham). Both York and Mansfield have seen declines in percentage terms (20.24 and 22.70 respectively), which may reflect the falling away of some casual interest now that they've been back in the FL for more than a season.
Our gates our 17.85% down on the average for the first 5 games, which although not the largest SHOULD be of concern for the overall business model. And whilst it's interesting for sad statos such as myself to crunch the numbers, the REAL question is how DO we get more bums on seats. Being perceived to play nice football (at least in the short-term of five games) is clearly NOT getting through to those who have not been recently (or before), so perhaps giving a real incentive to get people to come would. I'd favour a kids for a quid promotion, announced well in advance, for certain Saturday and mid-week games. The FUTURE of the club does lie with the younger age group, who will ONLY come if they perceive a real value in doing so. More community engagement would probably help too.
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Post by charliesghost on Sept 22, 2014 9:18:36 GMT
Blox 21 makes a fair point - not about going shopping, but crowds being down elsewhere too. An analysis of the average gates for the first five games played by the home sides this Saturday (who were in L2 last year) and the figures for the same number of games in 2013/14 reveals that: Only two clubs had higher averages - Northampton and Bury - which as both are getting better results than the same period last time, is to be expected perhaps; However, the other 7 saw a decrease that ranged in percentage terms from o.18 (Plymouth) to 32.88 (Chelternham). Both York and Mansfield have seen declines in percentage terms (20.24 and 22.70 respectively), which may reflect the falling away of some casual interest now that they've been back in the FL for more than a season. Our gates our 17.85% down on the average for the first 5 games, which although not the largest SHOULD be of concern for the overall business model. And whilst it's interesting for sad statos such as myself to crunch the numbers, the REAL question is how DO we get more bums on seats. Being perceived to play nice football (at least in the short-term of five games) is clearly NOT getting through to those who have not been recently (or before), so perhaps giving a real incentive to get people to come would. I'd favour a kids for a quid promotion, announced well in advance, for certain Saturday and mid-week games. The FUTURE of the club does lie with the younger age group, who will ONLY come if they perceive a real value in doing so. More community engagement would probably help too. One of the key early lessons in marketing is that you need to understand your market, rather than try to force your market to understand you. Our market is different from that of most lower league football clubs. It is far, far larger (one of the top 10 catchment areas in the country), far more geographically disparate (a 45 minute journey to the game may well be about the norm for our support), far richer (Oxford is the wealthiest part of the country outside London and its dormitories) and there is a greater choice of leisure pursuits as a result (from museums to concerts to summer festivals to endless motorsport options to nice market towns to good restaurants and country pubs). Compare and contrast all these things to most of our current rivals, with their small, geographically local, relatively less prosperous areas. The situation is not anywhere near as simple as a few Kids for a Quid promotions. It is tied up in much deeper issues, such as ease of access/ drink drive legislation/ food quality/ perceived lack of cachet in spending weekends watching crap football/ location on the edge of Oxfordshire's main sink estate/ soulless breeze block stadium etc etc etc. By all means we should do what we can to, in marcomms terms, 'polish the turd', but really we need to address the bigger issues, or else we will never realise this club's huge potential.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 9:40:24 GMT
Gaining new, younger supporters will never happen in our current position. Why would they want to come to the Kassam when their Oxford-supporting relatives are disillusioned and all their mates follow Chelsea? It will be a tough job to get them involved, even if we start climbing the table with silky performances.
We've more chance of re-engaging with lapsed fans (like Otto and his mates) who used to attend but have simply found better things to do after years of turgid football in a soul-less stadium blah blah blah. To do that though, our recent improvement has to be translated into wins and some sense of longer-term success.
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Post by CheltenhamYellow on Sept 22, 2014 9:42:41 GMT
May I reply as one of the age 45-65 demogaphic? Been watching since 1966 and seen us up/down, good/bad, boring/entertaining, etc etc. I travel 70 minutes to a match, and like a drink beforehand. I enjoyed the pub but didn't predicate my visits on that experience. I don't like the Manor Bar but it's all we've got. It won't stop me coming to matches. I've only recently asked myself whether I want to attend, and last season, for the first time, decided to miss a match or two due to Wilder's mind-numbingly boring tactics. I enjoy winning but I'd rather watch attractive football. Yes, Charlie, there are many many alternatives for me in Gloucestershire/Oxfordshire as entertainment, but while the football's good I'll spend my Saturdays at home matches, and the occasional away. I hate the stadium and its lack of atmosphere and facilities, but I'll put up with it if the football provides ENTERTAINMENT. There are probably a few hundred people like me, I would guess. Appleton's football will bring the others back in time, but they need to see us winning.
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