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Post by willscarlett on Jul 22, 2014 16:01:56 GMT
Well, it seems imminent becomes tomorrow, tomorrow becomes Monday and so on. One has to ask with a bonding session at Bisham Abbey happening without the finalised squad, what is stalling the promised new players with the season creeping up. Surely, unless MAPP thinks League two is a 5 a side league, he can see that we are 3 to 4 players short of a squad that resembles anything like a promotion challenging squad. Wouldn't you think that with the supposed added funds alongside the wages of the departed players things should be a little easier to get these players in? Of course as hardened supporters, most know we have been here before.
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Post by MJB on Jul 22, 2014 16:03:30 GMT
We've certainly been here before in terms of opening posts.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 16:06:38 GMT
Well done Matthew
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Post by androidyellow2 on Jul 22, 2014 16:07:30 GMT
It takes time to make a signing, it doesn't happen in an hour! There's money, relocating, other offers etc. etc. I have faith that the new setup will bring in the right players and I am prepared to wait for the right players.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 22, 2014 16:08:54 GMT
I'm sure he knows we need 3-4. As it was him that said "we need 3-4" and now kitson's replacement. As well as saying several offers were with players and agents. Would also guess there are 1-2 on trial at bisham. And enquires would have been made using his and df's contacts about the possibility of higher loans.
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Post by unification on Jul 22, 2014 16:18:06 GMT
This is starting to feel a bit like 2005-06 – and we all know how that ended. New manager, talismanic striker departs, a handful of new signings, but no strikers to speak of.
MApp should be working his socks off right now to bring people in. I know he’ll be trying and can appreciate that he wants the right people in, but only one signing in his three weeks in charge is pretty meagre. Paul Benson has just signed for Luton and I’d regard him as a missed chance – a class replacement for Kitson t this level. Going into our first match in less than three weeks’ time with an attack consisting of Hylton, Marsh and Roberts is nothing short of frightening. We’re short of a backup ‘keeper, have a pants midfield, are carrying knocks to some important players and have one senior striker.
Right now anyone who has two legs, is definitely a professional footballer, can ‘do a job; in midfield or upfront and isn’t called Deane Smalley are welcome to bring their boots.
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Post by ianmoore82 on Jul 22, 2014 16:26:09 GMT
Please, no more golden oldies.
We need to get a more youthful feel to the team. Something that can be built upon and not discarded and start all over again next season.
I'd happily accept (another) season of L2 football if it is apparent there is something to look forward to in the future
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Post by eighteen93 on Jul 22, 2014 16:29:55 GMT
The summer of 2005 - I thought Talbot did his transfer business quite early on with the captures of Billy Turley, Stuart Gray, Chris Willmott, Lee Mansell, Chris Hargreaves & Eric Sabin.
I remember us signing Andy Campbell and then people like Neville Roach and Scott Fitzgerald so you are probably correct
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 22, 2014 16:52:58 GMT
Please, no more golden oldies. We need to get a more youthful feel to the team. Something that can be built upon and not discarded and start all over again next season. I'd happily accept (another) season of L2 football if it is apparent there is something to look forward to in the future If we have to pay money at a younger age then it could be an investment if we can improve and sell them on
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Post by Toeby on Jul 22, 2014 16:59:29 GMT
No, I like, totally have faith in the new setup? They're like, really awesome? I think we will totally like, kick ass this season?
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Jul 22, 2014 17:03:19 GMT
I think we all know from recent seasons that the 'end of their career, but used to be top notch' footballers are generally not a success. Sometimes they can't really adjust to playing with L2 footballers, they are more likely to get injures and less likely to be able to play a full part in all matches. Which, when you start to build the tactics around them, ends badly. It must be hard for them to get enthused about playing in Carlisle on a wet Tuesday night when they've experienced a derby at a top Prem club!
Also (as has been said) they are an expensive stopgap, rather than a future investment.
Oh - and for as the original poll. The new lot have had less than three weeks to sort anything out. I suspect that most of the new non playing staff would have been sorted out beforehand - with the late start, the playing side is going to be trickier to fix. I think I'll wait and see where we are come the start of the season (although I will admit to checking every ten minutes to see if we've signed anyone yet!!!)
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Post by mcxal on Jul 22, 2014 17:05:23 GMT
Sorry, but in my mind we were 3-4 short AT LEAST before Kitson left.
We were short on quality and depth last season, and we have got significantly worse with the players that have since departed. 3-4 signings will not be enough to build a promotion challenging squad in my opinion, unless they are absolutely top drawer quality...and as has been made painfully clear, we clearly aren't offering the kind of money you need for those kind of players
My opinion is we need 2 strikers, a decent creative player through central midfield, at least one wide player, ideally someone with genuine defence-scaring pace as we've been lacking that for a while, and an experienced keeper to cover Clarke. So more like minimum 5, possibly even 6 senior pros.
A big ask before the end of September, and, as others have said, we could have a frighteningly poor strike force at the start of the season
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 22, 2014 17:35:04 GMT
Sorry, but in my mind we were 3-4 short AT LEAST before Kitson left. We were short on quality and depth last season, and we have got significantly worse with the players that have since departed. 3-4 signings will not be enough to build a promotion challenging squad in my opinion, unless they are absolutely top drawer quality...and as has been made painfully clear, we clearly aren't offering the kind of money you need for those kind of players My opinion is we need 2 strikers, a decent creative player through central midfield, at least one wide player, ideally someone with genuine defence-scaring pace as we've been lacking that for a while, and an experienced keeper to cover Clarke. So more like minimum 5, possibly even 6 senior pros. A big ask before the end of September, and, as others have said, we could have a frighteningly poor strike force at the start of the season How has it been made clear the kind of money we r offering . Maybe under il and GW but surely the quality of back room appointments alone suggests they r not afraid to pay for the right person , why should the playing staff be any different
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Post by tatabanya on Jul 22, 2014 19:41:32 GMT
Sorry, but in my mind we were 3-4 short AT LEAST before Kitson left. We were short on quality and depth last season, and we have got significantly worse with the players that have since departed. 3-4 signings will not be enough to build a promotion challenging squad in my opinion, unless they are absolutely top drawer quality...and as has been made painfully clear, we clearly aren't offering the kind of money you need for those kind of players My opinion is we need 2 strikers, a decent creative player through central midfield, at least one wide player, ideally someone with genuine defence-scaring pace as we've been lacking that for a while, and an experienced keeper to cover Clarke. So more like minimum 5, possibly even 6 senior pros. A big ask before the end of September, and, as others have said, we could have a frighteningly poor strike force at the start of the season How has it been made clear the kind of money we r offering . Maybe under il and GW but surely the quality of back room appointments alone suggests they r not afraid to pay for the right person , why should the playing staff be any different It's not about paying for the right person, it's paying the right amount for the right person.
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Post by willscarlett on Jul 22, 2014 21:55:31 GMT
It's not about paying for the right person or paying the right amount for the right person, it's about paying the right amount for the right person at the right time and at the right place....I think....
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Post by MJB on Jul 22, 2014 21:56:16 GMT
It's not about paying for the right person or paying the right amount for the right person, it's about paying the right amount for the right person at the right time and at the right place....I think.... Right.
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Post by sox on Jul 22, 2014 21:59:40 GMT
This is starting to feel a bit like 2005-06 – and we all know how that ended. New manager, talismanic striker departs, a handful of new signings, but no strikers to speak of. MApp should be working his socks off right now to bring people in. I know he’ll be trying and can appreciate that he wants the right people in, but only one signing in his three weeks in charge is pretty meagre. Paul Benson has just signed for Luton and I’d regard him as a missed chance – a class replacement for Kitson t this level. Going into our first match in less than three weeks’ time with an attack consisting of Hylton, Marsh and Roberts is nothing short of frightening. We’re short of a backup ‘keeper, have a pants midfield, are carrying knocks to some important players and have one senior striker. Right now anyone who has two legs, is definitely a professional footballer, can ‘do a job; in midfield or upfront and isn’t called Deane Smalley are welcome to bring their boots. Who was our talismanic striker?
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Post by baldy on Jul 22, 2014 22:18:04 GMT
I had a call tonight from a lady representing the club asking why I hadn't renewed my season tickets. When I told here it was because I'd been fed four years of complete b*llshit from Lenagan she said this season is a fresh start and that we will definitely be signing four players before the season starts. My guess is that we must be well down the line with each of those for her to state that to a fan.
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Post by scotchegg on Jul 22, 2014 22:45:11 GMT
I had a call tonight from a lady representing the club asking why I hadn't renewed my season tickets. When I told here it was because I'd been fed four years of complete b*llshit from Lenagan she said this season is a fresh start and that we will definitely be signing four players before the season starts. My guess is that we must be well down the line with each of those for her to state that to a fan. In The Know Alert!!!!
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jul 22, 2014 22:52:49 GMT
I had a call tonight from a lady representing the club asking why I hadn't renewed my season tickets. When I told here it was because I'd been fed four years of complete b*llshit from Lenagan she said this season is a fresh start and that we will definitely be signing four players before the season starts. My guess is that we must be well down the line with each of those for her to state that to a fan. Really!
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Post by ian on Jul 22, 2014 23:00:26 GMT
I had a call tonight from a lady representing the club asking why I hadn't renewed my season tickets. When I told here it was because I'd been fed four years of complete b*llshit from Lenagan she said this season is a fresh start and that we will definitely be signing four players before the season starts. My guess is that we must be well down the line with each of those for her to state that to a fan. When MAPP goes, I'm sure Baldy will be appointed as manager. No more B.S. from IL or others, Baldy will be the next manager of Oxford.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 23, 2014 5:31:05 GMT
This is starting to feel a bit like 2005-06 – and we all know how that ended. New manager, talismanic striker departs, a handful of new signings, but no strikers to speak of. MApp should be working his socks off right now to bring people in. I know he’ll be trying and can appreciate that he wants the right people in, but only one signing in his three weeks in charge is pretty meagre. Paul Benson has just signed for Luton and I’d regard him as a missed chance – a class replacement for Kitson t this level. Going into our first match in less than three weeks’ time with an attack consisting of Hylton, Marsh and Roberts is nothing short of frightening. We’re short of a backup ‘keeper, have a pants midfield, are carrying knocks to some important players and have one senior striker. Right now anyone who has two legs, is definitely a professional footballer, can ‘do a job; in midfield or upfront and isn’t called Deane Smalley are welcome to bring their boots. Who was our talismanic striker? Alsopp
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Post by uptheus on Jul 23, 2014 6:47:12 GMT
It is a little concerning when you think that the following players have gone since last season; Kitson, Beano, Deano, Williams, Rigg, Davies and Hall, and we've only brought in two. Add to that, with Clarke and Whing out of the squad, it's looking rather thin on the ground.
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Post by baldy on Jul 23, 2014 7:01:15 GMT
I had a call tonight from a lady representing the club asking why I hadn't renewed my season tickets. When I told here it was because I'd been fed four years of complete b*llshit from Lenagan she said this season is a fresh start and that we will definitely be signing four players before the season starts. My guess is that we must be well down the line with each of those for her to state that to a fan. Really! Genuine. I'm surprised others haven't picked up on this because the club must have contacted all ticket holders from last season who haven't renewed like me. She sounded a bit tele sales but obviously had all the information from the club in front of her. She was keen to point out the four new signings that the club will make and also the emphasis on the youth development with the likes of home grown players like Ruffels and O'Dowda breaking through. She went a bit mute when I pointed out that Ruffels was a key component of a team that lost seven out of the last eight to spectacularly f*ck up a promotion opportunity but I guess she was only doing her job. Surely others who haven't renewed from last season must have had this call. When she asked when - which I thought a bit premature - I'd be renewing I told her that I will wait to see if the club can back up all the talk and backroom changes with changes where they are most needed and that's out on the pitch.
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Post by unification on Jul 23, 2014 7:37:41 GMT
This is starting to feel a bit like 2005-06 – and we all know how that ended. New manager, talismanic striker departs, a handful of new signings, but no strikers to speak of. MApp should be working his socks off right now to bring people in. I know he’ll be trying and can appreciate that he wants the right people in, but only one signing in his three weeks in charge is pretty meagre. Paul Benson has just signed for Luton and I’d regard him as a missed chance – a class replacement for Kitson t this level. Going into our first match in less than three weeks’ time with an attack consisting of Hylton, Marsh and Roberts is nothing short of frightening. We’re short of a backup ‘keeper, have a pants midfield, are carrying knocks to some important players and have one senior striker. Right now anyone who has two legs, is definitely a professional footballer, can ‘do a job; in midfield or upfront and isn’t called Deane Smalley are welcome to bring their boots. Who was our talismanic striker? Tommy Mooney. Let's not pretend he wasn't missed despite him leaving in a huff (for which I don't begrudge him). Talbot put all his eggs in one basket trying to land Onandi Lowe and when that didn't pay off, he panicked and we ended up with the likes of Roach, Andy Campbell and Tim Sills on our books. A striker who could net you say 10 goals or so would have saved us that season.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jul 23, 2014 8:40:47 GMT
Genuine. I'm surprised others haven't picked up on this because the club must have contacted all ticket holders from last season who haven't renewed like me. She sounded a bit tele sales but obviously had all the information from the club in front of her. She was keen to point out the four new signings that the club will make and also the emphasis on the youth development with the likes of home grown players like Ruffels and O'Dowda breaking through. She went a bit mute when I pointed out that Ruffels was a key component of a team that lost seven out of the last eight to spectacularly f*ck up a promotion opportunity but I guess she was only doing her job. Surely others who haven't renewed from last season must have had this call. When she asked when - which I thought a bit premature - I'd be renewing I told her that I will wait to see if the club can back up all the talk and backroom changes with changes where they are most needed and that's out on the pitch. There has only been 2 signings so far so if it was asking about renewing your season ticket, She was not informed correctly on what t say to you.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 23, 2014 8:50:09 GMT
Genuine. I'm surprised others haven't picked up on this because the club must have contacted all ticket holders from last season who haven't renewed like me. She sounded a bit tele sales but obviously had all the information from the club in front of her. She was keen to point out the four new signings that the club will make and also the emphasis on the youth development with the likes of home grown players like Ruffels and O'Dowda breaking through. She went a bit mute when I pointed out that Ruffels was a key component of a team that lost seven out of the last eight to spectacularly f*ck up a promotion opportunity but I guess she was only doing her job. Surely others who haven't renewed from last season must have had this call. When she asked when - which I thought a bit premature - I'd be renewing I told her that I will wait to see if the club can back up all the talk and backroom changes with changes where they are most needed and that's out on the pitch. There has only been 2 signings so far so if it was asking about renewing your season ticket, She was not informed correctly on what t say to you. It says that the club WILL make. Not have made
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Jul 23, 2014 8:50:33 GMT
Bazzer - "She was keen to point out the four new signings that the club will make" not the ones we've already had.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Jul 23, 2014 9:10:33 GMT
Bazzer - "She was keen to point out the four new signings that the club will make" not the ones we've already had. Nothing concrete then oufcy.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 23, 2014 9:20:51 GMT
Bazzer - "She was keen to point out the four new signings that the club will make" not the ones we've already had. Nothing concrete then oufcy. Other than that's the sales, CEO and manager that have said we will sign 3-4 new players
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