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Post by yellowjam on Jul 19, 2014 17:15:28 GMT
F-ck me how many more weekends does he want off since he's been here He's only been back from summer holidays for 2 weeks , not a good sign is it You wait he's soon be racking up those yellows cards for a holiday break specially around Christmas like he did last season
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Post by dubaiyellow on Jul 19, 2014 17:42:24 GMT
Strong rumours at Didcot that Kitson has had his contract paid off and has gone. Could well be just a rumour. But the manager not talking about it until after the game certainly raises questions. You haven't been talking to yellowinmyblood by any chance have you?
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 19, 2014 17:49:09 GMT
Got a feeling there will be more 2 this. After all if he's there to teach and help motivate the younger players then fine by all means have the weekend off playing to recover . But turn up and support them. Clarkey is on crutches , still there to show his support .
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Post by yellowoptimist on Jul 19, 2014 18:10:37 GMT
Got a feeling there will be more 2 this. After all if he's there to teach and help motivate the younger players then fine by all means have the weekend off playing to recover . But turn up and support them. Clarkey is on crutches , still there to show his support . I think he might well be evaluating his options or he has decided and the club have said take the weekend to think it through.
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Post by stevegilbert on Jul 19, 2014 18:22:40 GMT
He could of just been given the weekend off to fully rest and let his body recover from the demands of pre season training?
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 19, 2014 18:24:36 GMT
He could of just been given the weekend off to fully rest and let his body recover from the demands of pre season training? If he needs a weekend off after 2 weeks back, then he ain't going to play much this year is he
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Post by stevegilbert on Jul 19, 2014 18:28:29 GMT
He could of just been given the weekend off to fully rest and let his body recover from the demands of pre season training? If he needs a weekend off after 2 weeks back, then he ain't going to play much this year is he At his age and the demands of pre season, he probably does need a complete 2 day break after a couple of weeks. They have had just over a month off, that is a long time for Kitson and his ageing limbs. If we are going to get the best out of him then the coaches will have to give him the odd day off here and there. It is common practice at football clubs that the older players don't train as much as the younger lads as recovery time is a lot longer.
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Post by oxonian on Jul 19, 2014 18:38:24 GMT
I cant believe people are getting wound up because Appleton didn't want to talk about Kitson until after the game. Concentrating on the game was surely more important? Kitson was given the weekend off, not really important news is it.
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 19, 2014 18:39:39 GMT
If he needs a weekend off after 2 weeks back, then he ain't going to play much this year is he At his age and the demands of pre season, he probably does need a complete 2 day break after a couple of weeks. They have had just over a month off, that is a long time for Kitson and his ageing limbs. If we are going to get the best out of him then the coaches will have to give him the odd day off here and there. It is common practice at football clubs that the older players don't train as much as the younger lads as recovery time is a lot longer. Ok so miss training on Friday , don't even play today if ur tired. But turn up to the game and get behind the rest of ur team mates. If were going to have a small squad there is no place in it for a high earner that can only maybe play 1in3 or worse when games start coming thick and fast.
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Post by captainox on Jul 19, 2014 18:45:35 GMT
I think an important point has been missed here: Presuming (as seems to be accepted in the football world) that Dave Kitson is 'The Secret Footballer' then being given the weekend off and producing the following blog post says a lot: www.thesecretfootballer.com/articles/the-secret-footballer/20587/sands-of-time-running-out/It could well be a "have time off and mull over your options" kind of situation or it could genuinely be a "get some rest and see you on Monday for the Bisham Abbey trip". Either way - the rather strange way Appleton handled it pre-match and the blog post being published today has meant it has become a much bigger talking point than perhaps it would have. As for criticising him for not turning up to the game - was Hunt at Farnborough? Was Wright at Oxford City? I haven't seen any criticism of the other players who have had knocks/been rested not attending the games they are missing.
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Post by stevegilbert on Jul 19, 2014 18:50:03 GMT
At his age and the demands of pre season, he probably does need a complete 2 day break after a couple of weeks. They have had just over a month off, that is a long time for Kitson and his ageing limbs. If we are going to get the best out of him then the coaches will have to give him the odd day off here and there. It is common practice at football clubs that the older players don't train as much as the younger lads as recovery time is a lot longer. Ok so miss training on Friday , don't even play today if ur tired. But turn up to the game and get behind the rest of ur team mates. If were going to have a small squad there is no place in it for a high earner that can only maybe play 1in3 or worse when games start coming thick and fast. I just think people are blowing this out of proportion. I am going to get all up tight about a player who has been given 2 days off and then he doesn't turn up to the game. I am pretty sure MApp will be fine by kitson not turning up to watch other wise he would of told Kitson to still come and watch.
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Post by dabigfella on Jul 19, 2014 18:51:56 GMT
Well not commenting before the match did give some on this site the opportunity to put their over vivid imaginations into top gear
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Post by victor1986 on Jul 19, 2014 19:37:35 GMT
Have now heard this from various sources so there is something in it. If he has gone then it frees up money to get players in. Kitson is a VERY wealthy man so I certainly do not feel sorry for him & I sincerely believe he will have made a decision that benefits both parties. Thanks Dave - a few magic moments from you - but you were a luxury we cannot afford.
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Post by stevegilbert on Jul 19, 2014 19:43:13 GMT
Have now heard this from various sources so there is something in it. If he has gone then it frees up money to get players in. Kitson is a VERY wealthy man so I certainly do not feel sorry for him & I sincerely believe he will have made a decision that benefits both parties. Thanks Dave - a few magic moments from you - but you were a luxury we cannot afford. Who are these sauces? Heinze and Daddys?
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Post by cruz on Jul 19, 2014 20:09:31 GMT
Heinze..now there was a player we could have used!
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Post by horseman on Jul 19, 2014 20:11:17 GMT
i'll say it again...if he is a luxury then he was when purchased, still was when the season ended and still the same when given a squad number so why not transfer list him?
as for freed up money i thought this was already available or have we jut been unlucky the past 2 weeks with players turning us down?
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Post by oufcyellows on Jul 19, 2014 20:20:24 GMT
i'll say it again...if he is a luxury then he was when purchased, still was when the season ended and still the same when given a squad number so why not transfer list him? as for freed up money i thought this was already available or have we jut been unlucky the past 2 weeks with players turning us down? Ur like a broken record , how many times do people have to answer ur same question. Incase u didn't notice no players under contract were transfer listed? And very unlikely we would have paid him off. Now it's up to Appleton if he thinks he can get enough out of him or not, but that decision will more than likely be made for him by kitson.
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Post by horseman on Jul 19, 2014 20:34:41 GMT
i know he was not transfer listed but you and others insist he was/is a luxury and i happen to disagree.
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Post by nick68 on Jul 19, 2014 20:47:00 GMT
It amazes me how our fans love to criticise players, there's been a long line of them that certain fans have it in for.
In my view we're a better side with Kitson in than without him, sure the stats would back that up too! I'm obviously not taking any financial matters into account as I'm not privy to that knowledge unlike all the itk posters on here!
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Post by Paul Cannell on Jul 19, 2014 20:47:38 GMT
Now it's up to Appleton if he thinks he can get enough out of him or not, but that decision will more than likely be made for him by kitson. I'd sooner it was made by Appleton. Soon. For my money, Kitson is the most talented player we've had at the club for yonks. If Appleton can find a role for him in the playing 11 and / or reckons it's fine to keep him in the picture to bring the boys on that's fine. But Kitson needs to commit to it or he should go.
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Post by bicesterox on Jul 19, 2014 20:56:49 GMT
I think an important point has been missed here: Presuming (as seems to be accepted in the football world) that Dave Kitson is 'The Secret Footballer' then being given the weekend off and producing the following blog post says a lot: www.thesecretfootballer.com/articles/the-secret-footballer/20587/sands-of-time-running-out/It could well be a "have time off and mull over your options" kind of situation or it could genuinely be a "get some rest and see you on Monday for the Bisham Abbey trip". Either way - the rather strange way Appleton handled it pre-match and the blog post being published today has meant it has become a much bigger talking point than perhaps it would have. As for criticising him for not turning up to the game - was Hunt at Farnborough? Was Wright at Oxford City? I haven't seen any criticism of the other players who have had knocks/been rested not attending the games they are missing. Yes,he was actually, me and my lad spoke to him at half time
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Post by Gary Baldi on Jul 19, 2014 21:12:18 GMT
If you read enough of TSF, you realise that the individual is prone highs and lows. Maybe TSF is feeling it after a tough week of training and the body is complaining and saying why go on? All footballers get to the age where the body starts breaking down and it's hard to give up. The wise manager allows the older players to take off days where they aren't needed.
Kitson seems to be on the knife edge with his career. A weekend off from playing in heat and humidity on a hard pitch could do him the world of good. Was he needed today? No.
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Post by scotchegg on Jul 19, 2014 21:15:15 GMT
Now it's up to Appleton if he thinks he can get enough out of him or not, but that decision will more than likely be made for him by kitson. I'd sooner it was made by Appleton. Soon. For my money, Kitson is the most talented player we've had at the club for yonks. If Appleton can find a role for him in the playing 11 and / or reckons it's fine to keep him in the picture to bring the boys on that's fine. But Kitson needs to commit to it or he should go. Agreed. Kitson is the best player we've had in a generation and he has a role to play this coming season. But the decision about if or where he plays must be made by the manager. If he stays then I'll be very happy but we'll see what the next 3 weeks brings.
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Post by foley on Jul 19, 2014 21:15:40 GMT
Now it's up to Appleton if he thinks he can get enough out of him or not, but that decision will more than likely be made for him by kitson. I'd sooner it was made by Appleton. Soon. For my money, Kitson is the most talented player we've had at the club for yonks. If Appleton can find a role for him in the playing 11 and / or reckons it's fine to keep him in the picture to bring the boys on that's fine. But Kitson needs to commit to it or he should go. Agree totally Paul
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Post by bigfella72 on Jul 20, 2014 6:14:47 GMT
If you read enough of TSF, you realise that the individual is prone highs and lows. Maybe TSF is feeling it after a tough week of training and the body is complaining and saying why go on? All footballers get to the age where the body starts breaking down and it's hard to give up. The wise manager allows the older players to take off days where they aren't needed. Kitson seems to be on the knife edge with his career. A weekend off from playing in heat and humidity on a hard pitch could do him the world of good. Was he needed today? No. Hasn't Arry at QPR given Rio Ferdinand a similar option?
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Post by rollsy on Jul 20, 2014 9:50:11 GMT
I think an important point has been missed here: Presuming (as seems to be accepted in the football world) that Dave Kitson is 'The Secret Footballer' then being given the weekend off and producing the following blog post says a lot: www.thesecretfootballer.com/articles/the-secret-footballer/20587/sands-of-time-running-out/It could well be a "have time off and mull over your options" kind of situation or it could genuinely be a "get some rest and see you on Monday for the Bisham Abbey trip". Either way - the rather strange way Appleton handled it pre-match and the blog post being published today has meant it has become a much bigger talking point than perhaps it would have. As for criticising him for not turning up to the game - was Hunt at Farnborough? Was Wright at Oxford City? I haven't seen any criticism of the other players who have had knocks/been rested not attending the games they are missing. Yes,he was actually, me and my lad spoke to him at half time As were the other players who had knocks, and Hunt was at Farnborough, as I saw him pre match.
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Post by johnno on Jul 20, 2014 10:01:22 GMT
Typical really of how bad the communication between club and fans is, although it hasnt been publically stated, kitson has had his contract paid up and wont be wearing a oufc shirt anymore,cant say how i know but im sure the news will be officially announced when the club deem fit to reveal the facts.Im sure in the long term it will benefit the club but my worry is can we wait till january to have the structure in place to capture decent players like has been stated by the board.
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Post by insider on Jul 20, 2014 11:28:05 GMT
D Kitson HAS left the building
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Post by jammydodger on Jul 20, 2014 11:35:19 GMT
Bit frustrated he's left it this late if that is the case that he is retiring.
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Post by stevegilbert on Jul 20, 2014 11:41:13 GMT
Where has this been confirmed?
I thought we had stopped with the 'I know something but cant say it although I want everyone to know that I know'
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