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Post by mcf86 on Apr 9, 2014 18:21:52 GMT
...good call Yuri' ..... mind you trying to get ANY kind of response regarding the Priory from Oxford City Council, so far, is like getting blood out of the proverbial stone(- or like getting £1 out of Ka$$am'$ pocket!) You experienced that as well then, obviously! I filled in an online form on OCC website reporting an unused vandalised grade two listed building in the Minchery farm area- and Nothing, not even an acknowledgement of my mail.
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Post by sideshowrob on Apr 9, 2014 18:27:55 GMT
I wonder if LW were promoted this season it would make the Priory viable again next season?
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Post by sarge on Apr 9, 2014 19:26:26 GMT
You experienced that as well then, obviously! I filled in an online form on OCC website reporting an unused vandalised grade two listed building in the Minchery farm area- and Nothing, not even an acknowledgement of my mail. 'Mailed Oxford City Council via several different departments....... NOTHING as yet, not even an acknowlegement for any of them being received Ive emailed the local councillor for where I live in Oxford...so far, NO reply!! cant wait for the candidates for the local , yes thats the one, Oxford City Council, elections to come canvassing for MY vote
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Post by bazzer9461 on Apr 9, 2014 20:24:47 GMT
As an independent I third that, But also for the OCC to force Ka**am to bring it to its former glory He owns it its a listed building so the OCC should act. I bet if if the colleges had some sort of lease/tenancy on the priory the OCC would act then!
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Post by SteMerritt on Apr 10, 2014 8:57:53 GMT
As a member of OxVox, I will add my name to the list wanting a few answers on this subject. A big loss to the matchday experience.
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Post by Eaststandboy on Apr 10, 2014 9:00:12 GMT
Me too. Match days are rubbish now.
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Post by John Lennon on Apr 10, 2014 9:14:57 GMT
Just a thought, you have probably seen the thread on the situation regarding the Priory? - As a member of OxVox I'd like to know if the group could affect pressure on OCC to bring firoka to heel and either bring the PH back into its intended use and fit for purpose, or for them to relinquish the tenancy? as a member of OxVox I second that ....maybe Yellow Army will 'get on board' too? The Yellow Army will definitely support OxVox in pursuing this. The match day experience is important for everyone attending our matches, and I know the Priory issue is an important one for many fans.
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Post by sarge on Apr 10, 2014 9:16:41 GMT
one of my local councillors(so far) is looking into WHY Oxford City Council are not replying to my questions/complaints re The Priory via their website ... waiting to hear what he finds out for me
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Post by McVicar on Apr 10, 2014 10:19:09 GMT
I was in the Holiday Inn on Saturday talking to some Fleetwood fans, they were saying how rubbish it was in the vicinity of the ground and they said last season it was much better because of the Priory, they mentioned the marquee and said it was a really good atmosphere. I don't think anyone realised just what a loss it would prove to be.
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Post by krissyallen on Apr 10, 2014 11:01:38 GMT
Can we not all pitch in with a lick of paint and a bit of maintenance?
That's the kind of stuff that makes the fans and the club great!
Present to Ka$$am that we will re-furb through grants/collection and volunteers over the summer, fronted through OxVox or the Yellow army or whatever, and then he can use his shitty staff to run it on 23ish days a year - maybe even a few local breweries to donate a few pints of local ale and lager for the 'grand-opening'......
if we all chip in, it would be great fun and something to be really really proud of
is this too far fetched? or can it happen? - i would definitely put a few man hours and a few quid in the pot - look at what we did for Dave Langan
We are Oxford United after all
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Post by mcf86 on Apr 10, 2014 12:46:18 GMT
one of my local councillors(so far) is looking into WHY Oxford City Council are not replying to my questions/complaints re The Priory via their website ... waiting to hear what he finds out for me Good point, I didn't think of going down that route, I will now!
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Post by Gary Baldi on Apr 10, 2014 12:55:29 GMT
Kassam owns the lease, Kassam is responsible for the upkeep. No fans group should pay for anything that involves maintaining the Priory when we don't own or lease it. I only say this because of the mans attitude to upkeep and eye for detail when he is owed money.
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Post by Si Bradbury on Apr 10, 2014 14:08:41 GMT
Mr Kassam owns the lease as Mr Baldi rightly points out, he had it on a 100 year lease from the council.
The Trust have had numerous discussions with Firoka over the past six months on other subjects and we will raise this important issue and see if we can find some further information on the situation and explore how we could look to return it to a matchday drinking venue.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2014 17:12:44 GMT
It's just got to return, has to, I hope. It's no surprise attendances have fallen since it was was closed. As someone else pointed out on another thread, the football may be poor but it's what we almost expect as Oxford fans. The thing that keeps attendances up is the matchday experience and atmosphere. 2 hours of that is in the stadium but the other 2/3 used to be spent in the priory. We've completely lost that now.
I'd also be willing to put in man hours helping to get it back up to scratch with fellow fans. However this is Kassam's responsibility, and he should be doing this, not us.
Really hope something can be sorted.
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Post by chappers on Apr 10, 2014 18:05:48 GMT
I wonder if LW were promoted this season it would make the Priory viable again next season? Not with a £50k per annum lease
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Post by sarge on Apr 10, 2014 20:13:12 GMT
Mr Kassam owns the lease as Mr Baldi rightly points out, he had it on a 100 year lease from the council. The Trust have had numerous discussions with Firoka over the past six months on other subjects and we will raise this important issue and see if we can find some further information on the situation and explore how we could look to return it to a matchday drinking venue.
....official supporters club? ....well we can hope
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Post by Paul Cannell on Apr 10, 2014 21:26:54 GMT
explore how we could look to return it to a matchday drinking venue. Is the biggest thing, IMO. Let's do it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2014 23:58:34 GMT
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Post by captainox on Apr 11, 2014 0:21:55 GMT
The lack of the Priory is a major influence in our decision not to come down to as many home matches as in the past. Travelling from York and arriving for around 1pm to ensure a parking space is fine but to then face effectively nothing to do for the 2 hours before kick-off just isn't attractive. The pubs in sandford are a good walk away, so by the time you've wandered down that way and had a pint, it is time to wander back again. I generally refuse to use any Kassam owned outlets so the bowlplex/hotel/ozone aren't an option but unfortunately may have to become one if the Priory can't be made to work. At the Priory you could leave at 14:50 and still be in your seat for 15:00. We came down on Boxing Day and it was poor. We resorted to turkey sandwiches in the car park whilst listening to Radio Oxford. If their hadn't been the stuff organised inside the ground pre kick-off, it would have been an awful matchday experience.
We can't be a very attractive away day for many clubs now - miles away from the centre of town, little to do around the ground before kickoff and a poorly maintained ground.
A lot of friends are travelling down from York for the game on Good Friday and have been asking why I'm not. In addition to the pessimism surrounding the team, the awful matchday experience just doesn't make me want to spend money to travel a 400 mile round trip. I'd rather save it for Scunthorpe/Northampton and the summer.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Apr 11, 2014 8:47:55 GMT
Hm, English Heritage have sent my query (asking to have the Priory put on the at risk register) to their heritage at risk team. We'll see.
Nothing at all from the council.
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Post by londonroader on Apr 11, 2014 9:42:33 GMT
I wonder if LW were promoted this season it would make the Priory viable again next season? Not with a £50k per annum lease Is that what Firoz is paying for it, or the figure he passes on to the tenant?
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Post by shilbottle on Apr 11, 2014 10:36:14 GMT
The lack of the Priory is a major influence in our decision not to come down to as many home matches as in the past. Travelling from York and arriving for around 1pm to ensure a parking space is fine but to then face effectively nothing to do for the 2 hours before kick-off just isn't attractive. The pubs in sandford are a good walk away, so by the time you've wandered down that way and had a pint, it is time to wander back again. I generally refuse to use any Kassam owned outlets so the bowlplex/hotel/ozone aren't an option but unfortunately may have to become one if the Priory can't be made to work. At the Priory you could leave at 14:50 and still be in your seat for 15:00. We came down on Boxing Day and it was poor. We resorted to turkey sandwiches in the car park whilst listening to Radio Oxford. If their hadn't been the stuff organised inside the ground pre kick-off, it would have been an awful matchday experience. We can't be a very attractive away day for many clubs now - miles away from the centre of town, little to do around the ground before kickoff and a poorly maintained ground. A lot of friends are travelling down from York for the game on Good Friday and have been asking why I'm not. In addition to the pessimism surrounding the team, the awful matchday experience just doesn't make me want to spend money to travel a 400 mile round trip. I'd rather save it for Scunthorpe/Northampton and the summer. I'm not sure if people like you are just stupid or hypocritical - or both?
So you will boycott the Bowlplex which Kassam owns, but were happy to go to the Priory - which he also owns? Can you explain how it's ok to by a drink in the priory but not in the Bowlplex?
All these silly little protests are just childish and pointless. It's impossible for any of us not to end up funding Kassam in some way, so why be so childish about it and why not just accept it?
Where does a lot of the club's income come from? Match days. And what's a massive outgoing for us? Rent - to Kassam. So it's pretty safe to say that some of our ticket money pays the rent to him. Which is no different to spending money in the Priory because most of the money made in there went to rent to Kassam! But somehow that's OK, but drinking in the Bowlplex isn't?
These petty and contradictory little protests are a waste of time and are about as effective as a cat-flap in the elephant house. Grow up.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Apr 11, 2014 10:49:15 GMT
I'm not sure if people like you are just stupid or hypocritical - or both? So you will boycott the Bowlplex which Kassam owns, but were happy to go to the Priory - which he also owns? Can you explain how it's ok to by a drink in the priory but not in the Bowlplex? These petty and contradictory little protests are a waste of time and are about as effective as a cat-flap in the elephant house. Grow up.
Very unpleasant post. The Priory lease was paid by the landlord (who you may remember did a fair bit for the community as well as providing a fine place to drink) - so buying from him made no difference to OGB. And it was a great place to go before the match, atmosphere, meet your mates etc.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 11:09:30 GMT
The lack of the Priory is a major influence in our decision not to come down to as many home matches as in the past. Travelling from York and arriving for around 1pm to ensure a parking space is fine but to then face effectively nothing to do for the 2 hours before kick-off just isn't attractive. The pubs in sandford are a good walk away, so by the time you've wandered down that way and had a pint, it is time to wander back again. I generally refuse to use any Kassam owned outlets so the bowlplex/hotel/ozone aren't an option but unfortunately may have to become one if the Priory can't be made to work. At the Priory you could leave at 14:50 and still be in your seat for 15:00. We came down on Boxing Day and it was poor. We resorted to turkey sandwiches in the car park whilst listening to Radio Oxford. If their hadn't been the stuff organised inside the ground pre kick-off, it would have been an awful matchday experience. We can't be a very attractive away day for many clubs now - miles away from the centre of town, little to do around the ground before kickoff and a poorly maintained ground. A lot of friends are travelling down from York for the game on Good Friday and have been asking why I'm not. In addition to the pessimism surrounding the team, the awful matchday experience just doesn't make me want to spend money to travel a 400 mile round trip. I'd rather save it for Scunthorpe/Northampton and the summer. I'm not sure if people like you are just stupid or hypocritical - or both?
So you will boycott the Bowlplex which Kassam owns, but were happy to go to the Priory - which he also owns? Can you explain how it's ok to by a drink in the priory but not in the Bowlplex?
All these silly little protests are just childish and pointless. It's impossible for any of us not to end up funding Kassam in some way, so why be so childish about it and why not just accept it?
Where does a lot of the club's income come from? Match days. And what's a massive outgoing for us? Rent - to Kassam. So it's pretty safe to say that some of our ticket money pays the rent to him. Which is no different to spending money in the Priory because most of the money made in there went to rent to Kassam! But somehow that's OK, but drinking in the Bowlplex isn't?
These petty and contradictory little protests are a waste of time and are about as effective as a cat-flap in the elephant house. Grow up.
Talking about "little protests", aren't you the bloke who posted War & Peace about a petty disagreement you had with the club over non-payment of a £50 DJ-ing fee? That was a totally self-indulgent effort, as opposed to people on this thread who are aiming to do something positive by bringing back the only decent watering hole near the ground. So which is more childish, would you say?
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Post by shilbottle on Apr 11, 2014 11:41:59 GMT
I'm not sure if people like you are just stupid or hypocritical - or both?
So you will boycott the Bowlplex which Kassam owns, but were happy to go to the Priory - which he also owns? Can you explain how it's ok to by a drink in the priory but not in the Bowlplex?
All these silly little protests are just childish and pointless. It's impossible for any of us not to end up funding Kassam in some way, so why be so childish about it and why not just accept it?
Where does a lot of the club's income come from? Match days. And what's a massive outgoing for us? Rent - to Kassam. So it's pretty safe to say that some of our ticket money pays the rent to him. Which is no different to spending money in the Priory because most of the money made in there went to rent to Kassam! But somehow that's OK, but drinking in the Bowlplex isn't?
These petty and contradictory little protests are a waste of time and are about as effective as a cat-flap in the elephant house. Grow up.
Talking about "little protests", aren't you the bloke who posted War & Peace about a petty disagreement you had with the club over non-payment of a £50 DJ-ing fee? That was a totally self-indulgent effort, as opposed to people on this thread who are aiming to do something positive by bringing back the only decent watering hole near the ground. So which is more childish, would you say? How is telling a story a "little protest"? It wasn't, I was merely stating what had happened.
I also wonder why it's childish? That was what happened to me I thought it was a bit off that I was ripped off! Clearly you think being ripped off and lied to is OK and if it happens to anyone they have to just wear it. I also thought people might like an insight into exactly how the matchday music is done.
Would you accept not to be paid, twice for doing your job? No, you wouldn't.
I fail to see why people like you think I'm in the wrong? I was brought in to do a job, I was told I'd be paid for it and I wasn't. Why am I in the wrong?
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Post by grumpygit on Apr 11, 2014 11:42:37 GMT
I'm not sure if people like you are just stupid or hypocritical - or both? So you will boycott the Bowlplex which Kassam owns, but were happy to go to the Priory - which he also owns? Can you explain how it's ok to by a drink in the priory but not in the Bowlplex? These petty and contradictory little protests are a waste of time and are about as effective as a cat-flap in the elephant house. Grow up.
Very unpleasant post. The Priory lease was paid by the landlord (who you may remember did a fair bit for the community as well as providing a fine place to drink) - so buying from him made no difference to OGB. And it was a great place to go before the match, atmosphere, meet your mates etc. Agreed, not a nice response to a fan who travels 200 miles and misses the Priory and the great service Tim provided.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 11:51:06 GMT
Talking about "little protests", aren't you the bloke who posted War & Peace about a petty disagreement you had with the club over non-payment of a £50 DJ-ing fee? That was a totally self-indulgent effort, as opposed to people on this thread who are aiming to do something positive by bringing back the only decent watering hole near the ground. So which is more childish, would you say? How is telling a story a "little protest"? It wasn't, I was merely stating what had happened.
I also wonder why it's childish? That was what happened to me I thought it was a bit off that I was ripped off! Clearly you think being ripped off and lied to is OK and if it happens to anyone they have to just wear it. I also thought people might like an insight into exactly how the matchday music is done.
Would you accept not to be paid, twice for doing your job? No, you wouldn't.
I fail to see why people like you think I'm in the wrong? I was brought in to do a job, I was told I'd be paid for it and I wasn't. Why am I in the wrong?
I'll tell you what I wouldn't do if I was owed £50, I wouldn't write a long, long thread on a forum whining about it. I don't think you're in the right or the wrong. Like 99.9% of other people (if not 100%), I couldn't care less. I do care about reinstating the Priory though, and applaud any ideas associated with it. Later today I'll write a piece about how I was short changed in my local Tesco,. It really was most unfair.
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Post by shilbottle on Apr 11, 2014 11:52:36 GMT
Very unpleasant post. The Priory lease was paid by the landlord (who you may remember did a fair bit for the community as well as providing a fine place to drink) - so buying from him made no difference to OGB. And it was a great place to go before the match, atmosphere, meet your mates etc. Agreed, not a nice response to a fan who travels 200 miles and misses the Priory and the great service Tim provided. It's funny how there's never any trouble in the bowlplex despite being mixed fans in there. Yet any time there was trouble up there it was at the Priory. And oh look, since it shut there's been little or no trouble up at the ground before a game. Funny that..
If he's such a fan, supporting the team would take priority over where he can have a drink before the game. If being able to drink before a game is more important than the game itself then you're not much of a football fan are you.
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Post by shilbottle on Apr 11, 2014 11:55:40 GMT
How is telling a story a "little protest"? It wasn't, I was merely stating what had happened.
I also wonder why it's childish? That was what happened to me I thought it was a bit off that I was ripped off! Clearly you think being ripped off and lied to is OK and if it happens to anyone they have to just wear it. I also thought people might like an insight into exactly how the matchday music is done.
Would you accept not to be paid, twice for doing your job? No, you wouldn't.
I fail to see why people like you think I'm in the wrong? I was brought in to do a job, I was told I'd be paid for it and I wasn't. Why am I in the wrong?
I'll tell you what I wouldn't do if I was owed £50, I wouldn't write a long, long thread on a forum whining about it. I don't think you're in the right or the wrong. Like 99.9% of other people (if not 100%), I couldn't care less. I do care about reinstating the Priory though, and applaud any ideas associated with it. Later today I'll write a piece about how I was short changed in my local Tesco,. It really was most unfair. See now that IS childish. Being short changed is clearly different to being not paid twice and lied to.
I'll ask you again, would you be happy to not be paid to do your job? Well?
It's £100 anyway
So what if you couldn't care less? Some people do. I couldn't care less about the priory. It was a dump which attracted dickheads and trouble. I'm more interested in watching a football match than drinking heavily and bellowing loudly beforehand.
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Post by Paul Cannell on Apr 11, 2014 11:59:15 GMT
You're very grown-up. Hurrah for you.
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