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Post by yellowshert on Mar 15, 2014 18:08:21 GMT
I'm not sure if it was intentional that Mark was introduced as mark of Oxvox but the brief comment made was appalling.
The seed of our problems do not lie with IL but to go on the radio and attempt to defend the mess that our club finds them in neither represents an independent of the club voice or I suspect the opinion of the vast majority of Oxvox members regarding the manager position which Mark represents when introduced in that way.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Mar 15, 2014 18:17:18 GMT
I'm not sure if it was intentional that Mark was introduced as mark of Oxvox but the brief comment made was appalling. The seed of our problems do not lie with IL but to go on the radio and attempt to defend the mess that our club finds them in neither represents an independent of the club voice or I suspect the opinion of the vast majority of Oxvox members regarding the manager position which Mark represents when introduced in that way. But that's oxvox don't really listen to their ramblings, But they shouldn't be commenting about matters of which apart from being fans, Is not their place to say. These sort of issues should be dealt with by the chairman or board members, Not so called representative's. Yes the seed of the problems do lie with IL.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 18:17:46 GMT
I'm not sure if it was intentional that Mark was introduced as mark of Oxvox but the brief comment made was appalling. The seed of our problems do not lie with IL but to go on the radio and attempt to defend the mess that our club finds them in neither represents an independent of the club voice or I suspect the opinion of the vast majority of Oxvox members regarding the manager position which Mark represents when introduced in that way. At least we know who "Eric Pollards Twin" on the new OUFC forum is now! Go on then, what did he say?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 18:23:14 GMT
I can't recall it verbatim. But Mark does have a habit of defending OUFC and Lenagan at every opportunity.
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Post by oufcyellows on Mar 15, 2014 18:23:59 GMT
I can't recall it verbatim. But Mark does have a habit of defending OUFC and Lenagan at every opportunity. Just for the record I'm not mark, before anyone puts 2 and 2 together and gets me
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Post by bazzer9461 on Mar 15, 2014 18:29:15 GMT
I can't recall it verbatim. But Mark does have a habit of defending OUFC and Lenagan at every opportunity. Just for the record I'm not mark, before anyone puts 2 and 2 together and gets me Not Douggie by any chance?
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Post by oufcyellows on Mar 15, 2014 18:33:04 GMT
Just for the record I'm not mark, before anyone puts 2 and 2 together and gets me Not Douggie by any chance? I'd have jumped off a bridge by now if I was .
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Post by foley on Mar 15, 2014 18:52:20 GMT
I think that Oxvox should be representing the supporters and members on the current situation.
The view of the vast majority I would suspect is that Il needs to do something now, and as an Oxvox member I would like these concerns made clear to IL
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Post by bazzer9461 on Mar 15, 2014 18:53:42 GMT
Not Douggie by any chance? I'd have jumped off a bridge by now if I was . LOL
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Post by Mark Sennett on Mar 15, 2014 20:15:28 GMT
Didn't get the time to put our point of view accross properly.
Was trying to agree that fans do want a decision on a change ASAP ie personally forwarded the views of the members on to the chairman on that. I was also trying to say that his reasons for not having appointed anyone yet is not for financial savings as I was told that directly.
When asked the question about if OxVox would like someone in place for Friday I replied ideally yes and that's our view. We want the right man in place ASAP and we'd hope that would be before the next game. If if had the time to say that id have put it that clearly.
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Post by oufcyellows on Mar 15, 2014 20:18:52 GMT
I got what u ment, thought he caught u a bit off guard and pushed on some questions. Which they had that sort of interview style with the manager rather than pussy footing around them
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Post by bazzer9461 on Mar 15, 2014 20:18:58 GMT
Didn't get the time to put our point of view accross properly. Was trying to agree that fans do want a decision on a change ASAP ie personally forwarded the views of the members on to the chairman on that. I was also trying to say that his reasons for not having appointed anyone yet is not for financial savings as I was told that directly. When asked the question about if OxVox would like someone in place for Friday I replied ideally yes and that's our view. We want the right man in place ASAP and we'd hope that would be before the next game. If if had the time to say that id have put it that clearly. You believe everything your told?
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Post by finlandia on Mar 15, 2014 20:33:00 GMT
Proper leadership is required. Can't be anything other than a change for Friday or the season has gone. What are OxVox actually doing? Passing views is one thing, but what action are the group taking on this?
Strong action is required now, not direct quotes from the chairmen or poor radio interviews. All talk, no real action
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Post by oufcyellows on Mar 15, 2014 20:37:42 GMT
What can they do. Beat the crap out of him till he makes the call. Kidnap his dog. No matter what anyone does or says he will only make an appointment when he wants
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Post by finlandia on Mar 15, 2014 20:46:30 GMT
They can start by not agreeing and defending him at every opportunity. How about a statement being critical of the delay, handling of Wilders contract. How about not courting the press/media and then still defending the regime.
How about showing some bollocks rather than Yes Prime Minister diplomatic letters. Independent, frankly laughable
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Post by johnnyboylager on Mar 15, 2014 20:47:03 GMT
my thoughts exactly Didn't get the time to put our point of view accross properly. Was trying to agree that fans do want a decision on a change ASAP ie personally forwarded the views of the members on to the chairman on that. I was also trying to say that his reasons for not having appointed anyone yet is not for financial savings as I was told that directly. When asked the question about if OxVox would like someone in place for Friday I replied ideally yes and that's our view. We want the right man in place ASAP and we'd hope that would be before the next game. If if had the time to say that id have put it that clearly. You believe everything your told?
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Post by oufcyellows on Mar 15, 2014 20:49:48 GMT
They r the voice of the fans right, maybe not all the fans have the view that lenagan is the devil incarnate, out to destroy the club from within
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Post by bazzer9461 on Mar 15, 2014 20:57:30 GMT
They r the voice of the fans right, maybe not all the fans have the view that lenagan is the devil incarnate, out to destroy the club from within No they probably haven't the view that IL is the devil incarnate, But surely the fans have to ask the question " has he done enough, has he gone the right way, Or does he need more direction ".
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Post by lodeyellow on Mar 15, 2014 21:48:59 GMT
Didn't get the time to put our point of view accross properly. Was trying to agree that fans do want a decision on a change ASAP ie personally forwarded the views of the members on to the chairman on that. I was also trying to say that his reasons for not having appointed anyone yet is not for financial savings as I was told that directly. When asked the question about if OxVox would like someone in place for Friday I replied ideally yes and that's our view. We want the right man in place ASAP and we'd hope that would be before the next game. If if had the time to say that id have put it that clearly. You believe everything your told? Personally, I'd take most things that Lenagan says with a large handful of salt. Unfortunately I've come to the conclusion that he just says what he feels is the appropriate thing to say at the time, depending largely on whom he's speaking to. There's no doubt he's messed things up completely this season. His credibility is in tatters so far as I'm concerned. Finally, a question to our friends in the Yellow Army: how are you going to improve the matchday experience when there are only about 3,000 to 4,000 fans in the ground?
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Post by yellowoptimist on Mar 15, 2014 21:50:15 GMT
They will sit in the directors box !!
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Post by yellowshert on Mar 15, 2014 23:54:23 GMT
I'm not sure if it was intentional that Mark was introduced as mark of Oxvox but the brief comment made was appalling. The seed of our problems do not lie with IL but to go on the radio and attempt to defend the mess that our club finds them in neither represents an independent of the club voice or I suspect the opinion of the vast majority of Oxvox members regarding the manager position which Mark represents when introduced in that way. At least we know who "Eric Pollards Twin" on the new OUFC forum is now! Go on then, what did he say? Mark disputed the wage budget which had been discussed earlier which inferred inside knowledge and as I interpreted it a defence of the situation regarding the manager situation which with every games looks more bizarre. As I said this did not sound like the voice of a chair of a supporters group who is impartial/independent of the club. There are many issues which IL can be defended regarding but this manager debacle is not one of them. i have no problem with either IL who has placed his trust previously in the wrong people or Oxvox who I feel of done many positive things but the comments made by Mark in this case I felt were ill advised.
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Post by classonewhistle on Mar 16, 2014 0:42:25 GMT
The problem is the manager IL is after is still employed by another club.
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Post by bazzer9461 on Mar 16, 2014 0:48:30 GMT
The problem is the manager IL is after is still employed by another club. How would you know that?
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Post by billyox on Mar 16, 2014 5:16:24 GMT
They can start by not agreeing and defending him at every opportunity. How about a statement being critical of the delay, handling of Wilders contract. How about not courting the press/media and then still defending the regime. How about showing some bollocks rather than Yes Prime Minister diplomatic letters. Independent, frankly laughable They won't do that this is oxvox and that will never change Sent from my SM-N9005 using proboards
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Post by billyox on Mar 16, 2014 5:19:27 GMT
They r the voice of the fans right, maybe not all the fans have the view that lenagan is the devil incarnate, out to destroy the club from within They are the voice of the fans or you would of thought so seeing as they are a supporters group Sent from my SM-N9005 using proboards
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Post by inoxwetrust on Mar 16, 2014 7:32:38 GMT
The problem is the manager IL is after is still employed by another club. That must be the case. There cannot be any other reason why we don't have a new manager on board. Maybe its time to move on to the second choice NOW rather than waiting until even the PO's are no longer achievable! Surely, out of 60 applicants even the second choice must be half decent!
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Post by mcf86 on Mar 16, 2014 9:35:49 GMT
The problem is the manager IL is after is still employed by another club. How would you know that? He's privy to information that us rank and file are not? Or, another individual playing the guessing game? Take yer pick!
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Post by bazzer9461 on Mar 16, 2014 9:38:16 GMT
He's privy to information that us rank and file are not? Or, another individual playing the guessing game? Take yer pick! probably the guessing game. It would be nice if he'd reply.
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Post by uptheus on Mar 16, 2014 10:14:06 GMT
Was Mark working for the club at last Tuesday night's game against Cheltenham?
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Post by pottersrightboot on Mar 16, 2014 11:11:53 GMT
Mark Sennett should have kept off the radio last night. There was no structure to what he was saying. He should take soundings from the committee and membership before making 'official' Oxvox pronouncements.
However, It is clear to any right thinking supporter, especially those attending yesterday, that Lenagan has created a yawning vacuum with his lack of decisive action on the new manager front.
Lewis should be thanked for his help and go back to rearranging the prematch cones. On Monday.
There is an appalling lack of tactical discipline on show. Micky will never be a decent manager. He doesn't have the drive or intelligence.
Act now or take the consequences with next years season ticket sales.
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