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Post by oxymoron on Dec 30, 2012 17:32:11 GMT
But yesterdays "3-0 up with 10mins to go" game was, after Beano's dismissal, not the one to send young Ty into.
With Craddock already subbed, he would have been the focal striker, the atmosphere was, shall we say "charged" and I'm sure the Wombles defenders would have given him some "attention" to provoke a reaction from, if not Ty, then other members of the team - who knows what the outcome might have been.
For the record, I have seen Ty play twice at Thame and he is very good playing at that level, he certainly looks a better prospect than Woodley. However, playing against boys and lower non-league standard clubs (no disrespect intended) players is not the same as playing against men - experienced league standard men to boot. I didn't see his game at Plymouth, but those that I know that did said he was not quite there yet.
Danny Rose was an exceptional talent as a teenager, but he could not make that step up to the mans game. Tyrone may or may not take the step; playing him yesterday might well have been a possibility in helping him develop - but not after Constable had gone.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2012 17:33:50 GMT
You understand that Wilder sees him every single day right? You might not agree with his assessment, but he shouldn't play a player he doesn't think is good enough/ready, just so that fans can form an opinion. How is he not ready? He clearly has good enough skills as the club/ wilder would not have signed him on a professional contract. There is not an argument to say that he mentally isn't ready as his twitter would argue otherwise. There was nothing wilder could have lost by putting him on yesterday, we need to blood him at some point and as the season draws to a close there is going to be less and less opportunities. As I have already stated, I am not having a dig as I think his tactics have been spot on in the last few weeks, its just a little criticism. Really? I would suggest his Twitter actions would show the opposite.
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Post by uptheus on Dec 30, 2012 17:37:22 GMT
How is he not ready? He clearly has good enough skills as the club/ wilder would not have signed him on a professional contract. There is not an argument to say that he mentally isn't ready as his twitter would argue otherwise. There was nothing wilder could have lost by putting him on yesterday, we need to blood him at some point and as the season draws to a close there is going to be less and less opportunities. As I have already stated, I am not having a dig as I think his tactics have been spot on in the last few weeks, its just a little criticism. Really? I would suggest his Twitter actions would show the opposite. What did he say on Twitter?
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Post by uptheus on Dec 30, 2012 17:54:47 GMT
So with Constable out for 4 games , Do you give the player with league experience a run out with the rest of the lads? Or Marsh? I'd be really made up for Marsh to be a young saviour for the side. But i suspect we will play Parker up front with Craddock, or perhaps Potter. So give Parker the time to play proper football with his teammates and he looked sharp to me. Marsh may well get more game time in the JPT. I think Wilder knows his future depends on the league and no league game is a given when you can throw on a youngster just for experience, given our current position. If Beano is out for 4 games then I'd start Parker, but I would give Marsh the odd 10-15mins here and there depending on the situation at the time.
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Post by uptheus on Dec 30, 2012 18:06:01 GMT
But yesterdays "3-0 up with 10mins to go" game was, after Beano's dismissal, not the one to send young Ty into. With Craddock already subbed, he would have been the focal striker, the atmosphere was, shall we say "charged" and I'm sure the Wombles defenders would have given him some "attention" to provoke a reaction from, if not Ty, then other members of the team - who knows what the outcome might have been. For the record, I have seen Ty play twice at Thame and he is very good playing at that level, he certainly looks a better prospect than Woodley. However, playing against boys and lower non-league standard clubs (no disrespect intended) players is not the same as playing against men - experienced league standard men to boot. I didn't see his game at Plymouth, but those that I know that did said he was not quite there yet. Danny Rose was an exceptional talent as a teenager, but he could not make that step up to the mans game. Tyrone may or may not take the step; playing him yesterday might well have been a possibility in helping him develop - but not after Constable had gone. I hear what you're saying re Constable situation, but I think he could have put Marsh on for Rigg instead of Dubes, and asked him to run the channels and put their defence under pressure. This would have given him 5-10 mins which would build his confidence, especially as he may actually have to use him at somepoint anyway. And we may have been able to see if he really is lightweight etc. e.g. look at Stirling, most would say that he's not strong enough or too lightweight. Wilder had an opportunity yetserday and against Accrington, but he chose not to again. If Wilder doesn't think he's able to step up to the plate, then don't put him on the bench.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2012 18:59:31 GMT
How is he not ready? He clearly has good enough skills as the club/ wilder would not have signed him on a professional contract. There is not an argument to say that he mentally isn't ready as his twitter would argue otherwise. There was nothing wilder could have lost by putting him on yesterday, we need to blood him at some point and as the season draws to a close there is going to be less and less opportunities. As I have already stated, I am not having a dig as I think his tactics have been spot on in the last few weeks, its just a little criticism. Really? I would suggest his Twitter actions would show the opposite. Although it may not be very professional and some may say disrespectful it shows he wants to be on the pitch.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2012 19:44:59 GMT
Really? I would suggest his Twitter actions would show the opposite. Although it may not be very professional and some may say disrespectful it shows he wants to be on the pitch. I would love to be on the pitch, doesn't mean I should be. Retweeting criticism of the manager and other comments saying how you should be playing is not what I want my young & presumably hungry centre forward doing and it's certainly not going to endear you the the management. I want him to shut up, work his nuts off & grab every chance he gets. He's not Rio Ferdinand, he's not even Jack Midson (although apparently he's using him as a social media guru) he's a kid with 45 minutes professional football under his belt. Knuckle down, stay humble & the chances will come.
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