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Post by yuriyeller on Mar 5, 2012 9:41:48 GMT
The Swindon match was always going to require a high proportion of stewarding and policing as it is perceived as a high-profile game due to the long-standing conflict between both sets of supporters.
What was far less expected was the behaviour of the Swindon club themselves. Here are some examples ...
There are reports of the Swindon players and manager 'giving the middle finger' to Oxford fans. Do people perceive this as unprofessional? Do you think these actions as aggressive and more likely to incite rather than dampen any notion of violence? Are these behaviours generally associated with adolescents and not members of a professional body?
A Swindon player publicly tweeted the words 'f*cking poxford scum'. Is this offensive? Is the tone aggressive? Should the FA adopt a zero tolerance approach to inappropriate public communications before it becomes part of the norm?
The Ball-Boy Incident. I am sure we all agree the player instantly regretted his actions but should he be behaving like that? Is a footballer displaying that level of aggression to a kid totally unprofessional?
After the game but whilst still on the field of play, some of the Swindon players gave Oxford fans 'the finger'. Is this acceptable? Are these actions confrontational and/or aggressive?
If any of the above events were isolated, they would less likely be given much consideration but collectively, are they an indication of a rising increase of aggressive behaviours towards supporters? Should these behaviours be reported to the FA or is it something we should accept and subsequently expect?
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Post by alessandro on Mar 5, 2012 9:44:38 GMT
Also add to that list:
Racist chanting
Trashing a bus
Attacking a toilet.
Classy lot are our mob from down the road.
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Post by yellowhoods on Mar 5, 2012 9:47:44 GMT
One of them was in possession of a particularly ugly face too. Frightened the police horses. Call the RSPCA.
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Post by Chris1986 on Mar 5, 2012 9:49:25 GMT
We won, why is everyone being so petty?
If we are looking at things wrong surely Swindon could report us for the ballboys actions in holding up the game?
Clarke admitted on the radio after the match that he was stalling for time when he went down with cramp.
What about the automatic fine we will receive due to the fact we had 6 yellow cards and a red card? Hardly puts us in a position to act high and mighty over other teams actions.
Just enjoy the feeling of victory and the enjoyment of seeing an absolutely fantastic game.
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Post by scotters on Mar 5, 2012 9:52:57 GMT
I'm not trying to have a go at anyone here, but some of this post-match stuff seems ridiculously petty. We've humbled the league leaders and our local rivals with 10 men and a massive list of injuries. Isn't that enough for people?
I mean seriously, rival fans giving our fans the middle finger? A player shoving a ballboy and then apologising afterwards? A couple of naughty words on Twitter?
I'm all for taking down Swindon a peg, but all of this smacks of fans with a chip on their shoulder desperately trying to get offended about nothing.
We've humbled Scumdon twice this season, and have come out as clearly the best head-to-head. Just enjoy that without trying to work up some indignation, I say.
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Post by junior1 on Mar 5, 2012 9:53:48 GMT
Not forgetting the actions of PDC after the game. That could have resulted in disorder from both sets of fans, very unprofessional behaviour.
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Post by ZeroTheHero on Mar 5, 2012 9:54:02 GMT
Of course they shouldn't be 'reported'. The ball boy incident was quite funny (and they had been winding the scum players up!) and the player had the class to come over and apologise to the lad in front of the East Stand afterwards. So no problem there as far as I am concerned. It's actually good to see that some players have still got some fire in their bellies and respond to the stuff shouted at them all match, especially in a local derby. At least they care about how their team does in such a match. We spent all match shouting at them - maybe we could take just a little back? At least they had the good grace not to celebrate all of their goals in front of our supporters - oh, hold on a moment ...
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Post by Chris1986 on Mar 5, 2012 9:58:32 GMT
Imagine the anger we'd have on here if an opposition ball boy pulled stunts like that, we'd be seething and how many times have we been furious when on the other end of teams time wasting and breaking up the game when we were in the conference? On Saturday we were the ones dishing it out and frustrating the opposition to get 3 points yet we're still not happy!
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Post by scummerator on Mar 5, 2012 10:05:18 GMT
One of them was in possession of a particularly ugly face too. Frightened the police horses. Call the RSPCA. One? The whole village of 'Cletus-cum-Sister' to my right looked totally ferkin ugly as it happens 'They came-They saw-WE took the pi55'.....'nuff said!
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Post by londonroader on Mar 5, 2012 10:07:11 GMT
Also add to that list: Racist chanting Trashing a bus Attacking a toilet. Classy lot are our mob from down the road. And that was mostly their S/T holders..
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Post by Big Ron on Mar 5, 2012 10:24:13 GMT
I can only agree with scotters here. Grow up - I can't believe some of the complaints and pettiness throughout the forum.
It was a 'proper' game - fierce rivalry and a real atmosphere and we won. That's it - now let's enjoy the win and move on to the next game.
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Post by Simon Lill on Mar 5, 2012 10:31:23 GMT
Jesus, are we still talking about this bollocks?
Shrewsbury tomorrow night, lets focus on that eh
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Post by sarumox on Mar 5, 2012 10:34:34 GMT
No point, we gain nothing extra on top of the 6 points, so why bother. These actions go on at every game, certainly those I go to. The tweeter is the only issue I have, but I am biased in that I have a particular problem with that social site.
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Post by essexyellows on Mar 5, 2012 10:39:03 GMT
FFS is this the future of football? Oooooohhh the nasty man waved a finger at me. I guess it maybe many years for some people to grow a pair. Last 3 games against them......won 3. What more do you want? I`ve been waiting many years for days like Saturday. Player says something on Facebook/Twitter etc that is offensive...don`t feckin read it then!
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Post by sarumox on Mar 5, 2012 11:04:23 GMT
I don't read it, but I do have a rather broader problem with it in that it allows cowards and bullies the opportunity to abuse and insult behind a keyboard. I have children who access it and it is their experience that led me to write that. As I said the rest goes on all the time so why bother.
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Post by moobs on Mar 5, 2012 11:18:11 GMT
What a shit poll
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 11:28:13 GMT
Embarassing post.
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Post by johnnyboylager on Mar 5, 2012 11:39:38 GMT
what a pathetic post, the reason saturday was so good, and will give such good memories for years to come is becuase of all these things. If you want to complain about them then expect complaints in return from Dicanio, Westley, Evans........and every other player or manager that has been abused by the London Road. This is what Derbys are all about. As far as I can make out the only lasting damage done was to a toilet, so lets keep our hair on shall we? Bring on the next one.
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Post by alessandro on Mar 5, 2012 12:36:44 GMT
I have no problem with someone reporting them. Couldn't be bothered to do it myself but if it winds them up a little then go for it.
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Post by scummerator on Mar 5, 2012 14:01:13 GMT
Graham was worse, couldn't count either, hated yellows...........
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Post by winchesterox on Mar 5, 2012 14:06:34 GMT
what a pathetic post, the reason saturday was so good, and will give such good memories for years to come is becuase of all these things. If you want to complain about them then expect complaints in return from Dicanio, Westley, Evans........and every other player or manager that has been abused by the London Road. This is what Derbys are all about. As far as I can make out the only lasting damage done was to a toilet, so lets keep our hair on shall we? Bring on the next one. What sort of hair should we keep on the toilet?
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Post by collyox (banned) on Mar 5, 2012 16:26:19 GMT
Errrrr,,,i seem to remember we wrecked their toilets in the away fixture......must admit it took some feckin wrecking looking at the state of them......... ;D 1-1 on the toilet front then as for the middle finger......jeeeez get a life pleeeeeeeease ...i was very very dissapointed Dickanio had such a quiet day
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Post by chippsy on Mar 5, 2012 16:38:01 GMT
Got to agree with Scotters on this one.... lets move on.
Another huge game Tuesday... need another sterling performance from the lads... lets focus on that.........
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Post by basingstokeox on Mar 5, 2012 16:43:23 GMT
we played football we won move on................
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Post by swindonyellow1979 on Mar 5, 2012 18:51:27 GMT
Look we all hate Swindon but lets be honest here. The toilet attack, bus attacks etc will all be investigated anyway so no need to lodge any formal complaints. Someone mentioned Swindon tried setting fire to something??
If anyone's actions need investigating its Paolo Di Canio for insighting the fans really. Our lads could have ran on the pitch and it properly kicked off with Swindon. It is what it is at the end of the day, they lost, couldnt admit they are the smaller club and thats it.
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Post by Lone Gunman on Mar 5, 2012 19:08:00 GMT
Look we all hate Swindon but lets be honest here. The toilet attack, bus attacks etc will all be investigated anyway so no need to lodge any formal complaints. Someone mentioned Swindon tried setting fire to something?? If anyone's actions need investigating its Paolo Di Canio for insighting the fans really. Our lads could have ran on the pitch and it properly kicked off with Swindon. It is what it is at the end of the day, they lost, couldnt admit they are the smaller club and thats it. Agree, the criminal activities of the piggy fiddlers will be investigated by the authorities. If anyone feels they have been threatened or made a victim of the antics of the scum then they should report that themselves, and if the club want to cite the likes of di Can'tio for his moronic behaviour or the scum fans for the racist chanting, then its up to them to do it rather than Oxvox. Ultimately, aside from the criminal damage, the chanting and di canio's incitement to riot, the incidents are minor and either didn't affect or went unnoticed by many of the Oxford fans oxvox is designed to represent. That organisation's activities can be better directed at other issues rather than making complaints about some willy waving by the sore losers from down the 420.
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Post by usmad (Swindon fan)(banned) on Mar 5, 2012 19:22:33 GMT
Look we all hate Swindon but lets be honest here. The toilet attack, bus attacks etc will all be investigated anyway so no need to lodge any formal complaints. Someone mentioned Swindon tried setting fire to something?? If anyone's actions need investigating its Paolo Di Canio for insighting the fans really. Our lads could have ran on the pitch and it properly kicked off with Swindon. It is what it is at the end of the day, they lost, couldnt admit they are the smaller club and thats it. di canio's incitement to riot Elaborate?
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Post by scoob on Mar 5, 2012 22:11:02 GMT
What I don't get is that a large number of our fans are happy to give abuse but when they are on the recieving end of some minor reaction they become pathetic whingers. If you give it then expect to take it.
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Post by junior1 on Mar 5, 2012 22:16:27 GMT
di canio's incitement to riot Elaborate? Evening. The games ended. The winning manager ( not PDC ( has shaken hands and applauded the home support. The losing manager has shook hands and then took upon himself to walk the right across the pitch to the visiting fans. You'd think a simple appreciation of the support would suffice? But no, our Italian friend has to take it that little but further. He not only produces a Swindon flag ( not wise after the incidents in the NS throughout the game ) he then try's to wind up the home supporters by doing hand gestures to indicate us staying down. He then finishes off with a one man scarf waving, a lofting show... All in all he's just a fascist , scum, c*nt!
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Post by whitehorsered (Swindon fan) on Mar 5, 2012 22:56:16 GMT
don't expect you lot to like it and really don't care but a manager that shows that kind of solidarity with his club's fans in joyous victory and painful defeat is actually a bit special whatever unoriginal mock outrage and putdowns you may wish to post
Fact is your team has done its talking on the pitch and most fans (yes on both sides) contributed to a cracking atmosphere that makes this derby one with relatively few equals. PDC understands this. Most of us on both sides do. Not all managers or players do get it though and his passion and leadership in coming over means something.
No riot did ensue and if it's unprofessional then no red is complaining about the results or style of football so far. Well done to the ten men and to most of the sensible posters here.
I don't like the Pox, I hope you get
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